I think this highlights very clearly the true value of using points for Business Class, attached are the Business Class flights I recently managed to secure using Qantas Frequent-flyer points, it is our planned itinerary (all legs Business Class) with Air France for Aug/Sept 2023. The attached shows how much the same flights would have cost us if we had to pay for the same Business Class seats, a staggering AUD$34,701. All we had to fork out was 487,400 FF points and AUD$1,778.64 in taxes!! The Singapore legs outbound and return are the Air France new Business Class 1-2-1 configuration!
Nice to use those QF points and find a nice redemption!
Dollar per point saved very nice.
However Aussies unfortunately are beholden to Qantas and spend an inordinate amount on redemptions. For eg I am flying with my wife in biz return in March 23 from Sydney to Singapore and used American miles. 160k for the two of us and about $300 in taxes.
In March this year my son and I flew from Dallas to Sydney on QF metal using Alaska miles in biz. I think it was 55k Alaska miles and around $11 in taxes. Qantas was charging 133k miles and about 500$ taxes for its own flight.
Last editedby Mickinchicago at Oct 11, 2022, 02:39 PM.
Ok how the $@:? did you find that redemption?? We’ve been looking for something similar for months. Points are worth nothing if you can’t use them, but it seems you’ve lucked out??
Arnu, nice you got some flights and I certainly agree there is value in QFF points if used to secure business class seats. I noticed you posted a month ago commenting on the complete lack of business class classic rewards on the QF website. I have been monitoring and see almost nothing being made available at release time. Even today PER-LAX shows availability on 5 Oct 23, but if that day is selected the website doesn't show a flight. It is probably Cathay Pacific based on previous searches I made and it eventually comes into the range of dates that QF are released. But then, the Perth-Hong Kong sector is not offered. I was thinking of using points to get out of Australia and then buying the rest of the trip, but I can't even see any Perth-Singapore availability. Any tips on how you were successful?
I am not necessarily talking about the availability of awards rather using much cheaper currencies to book these flights. I keep all my points at a card level eg amex and then distribute them to the best program. I am an American Airlines platinum and they offer redemptions at a far better rate (lower points and fees than Qantas). I buy LifeMiles and Alaska miles to purchase redemptions. And I also bought a million points f from the simply miles promotion. Last week I booked Qatar airways first class from Sydney to Doha in June 23 for 100k American miles and $59. No idea what wantas would try to charge me. But I imagine it’s brutal. American has free cancellation on awards so I’ll move it if I don’t like that date.
If you only have qantas (and even Singapore) points you’re in a rough place.
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Arnu
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I think this highlights very clearly the true value of using points for Business Class, attached are the Business Class flights I recently managed to secure using Qantas Frequent-flyer points, it is our planned itinerary (all legs Business Class) with Air France for Aug/Sept 2023. The attached shows how much the same flights would have cost us if we had to pay for the same Business Class seats, a staggering AUD$34,701. All we had to fork out was 487,400 FF points and AUD$1,778.64 in taxes!! The Singapore legs outbound and return are the Air France new Business Class 1-2-1 configuration!
Mickinchicago
Mickinchicago
Member since 10 Sep 2018
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Nice to use those QF points and find a nice redemption!
Dollar per point saved very nice.
However Aussies unfortunately are beholden to Qantas and spend an inordinate amount on redemptions. For eg I am flying with my wife in biz return in March 23 from Sydney to Singapore and used American miles. 160k for the two of us and about $300 in taxes.
In March this year my son and I flew from Dallas to Sydney on QF metal using Alaska miles in biz. I think it was 55k Alaska miles and around $11 in taxes. Qantas was charging 133k miles and about 500$ taxes for its own flight.
dm12
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Member since 08 Feb 2018
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Ok how the $@:? did you find that redemption?? We’ve been looking for something similar for months. Points are worth nothing if you can’t use them, but it seems you’ve lucked out??
GregXL
GregXL
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Member since 26 May 2014
Total posts 320
Arnu, nice you got some flights and I certainly agree there is value in QFF points if used to secure business class seats. I noticed you posted a month ago commenting on the complete lack of business class classic rewards on the QF website. I have been monitoring and see almost nothing being made available at release time. Even today PER-LAX shows availability on 5 Oct 23, but if that day is selected the website doesn't show a flight. It is probably Cathay Pacific based on previous searches I made and it eventually comes into the range of dates that QF are released. But then, the Perth-Hong Kong sector is not offered. I was thinking of using points to get out of Australia and then buying the rest of the trip, but I can't even see any Perth-Singapore availability. Any tips on how you were successful?
Mickinchicago
Mickinchicago
Member since 10 Sep 2018
Total posts 6
I am not necessarily talking about the availability of awards rather using much cheaper currencies to book these flights. I keep all my points at a card level eg amex and then distribute them to the best program. I am an American Airlines platinum and they offer redemptions at a far better rate (lower points and fees than Qantas). I buy LifeMiles and Alaska miles to purchase redemptions. And I also bought a million points f from the simply miles promotion. Last week I booked Qatar airways first class from Sydney to Doha in June 23 for 100k American miles and $59. No idea what wantas would try to charge me. But I imagine it’s brutal. American has free cancellation on awards so I’ll move it if I don’t like that date.
If you only have qantas (and even Singapore) points you’re in a rough place.