Celebrating one year since Qatar was denied extra capacity into Australia ☺️

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WSQplat

Member since 15 Dec 2021

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Originally Posted by RedWood

nice try the ghost of Alans past

Qantas is an inferior international airline.....wasnt even pulling its weight during covid

Guess who was however, getting Aussies home.......Qatar was

Educate yourself, armchair economist!

Qantas did fly a lot of Aussies home, but the flights were dedicated and not regular like Qatar. If Qantas was operating regular international flights during the time AU's borders were closed, they would have gone bankrupt and it would have drained the f*ck out of what was remaining in their business. Qantas is run as a private corporation, not a petro govt. subsidary like Qatar......

Other airlines that were run as private corporations also didn't fly here when AU was closed. Qatar could because they're not really a corporation, they're a govt subsidiary get huge state payments from gas and oil ventures so they could afford to do AU flights at loss without harming themselves. Even if Qantas was owned by our govt, I doubt AU Govt would have been able to finance regular international Qantas flights during the pandemic because we don't tax our fossil fuel industry enough......

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WSQplat

Member since 15 Dec 2021

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Originally Posted by Mightyreds

Someone forgot to take their medication 🤣


It would be great if you posted something useful instead of pathetic, childish content.

Mightyreds

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Member since 09 Feb 2015

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Originally Posted by WSQplat

Originally Posted by Mightyreds

Someone forgot to take their medication 🤣


It would be great if you posted something useful instead of pathetic, childish content.
I could say the same thing to you and your pathetic post. David should remove it as the maturity level is as low as it has even been with your post.

Mightyreds

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Member since 09 Feb 2015

Total posts 72

Originally Posted by WSQplat

Originally Posted by Mightyreds

Someone forgot to take their medication 🤣


It would be great if you posted something useful instead of pathetic, childish content.
I could say the same thing to you and your pathetic post. David should remove it as the maturity level is as low as it has even been with your post.

sunnybrae

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Member since 21 Jul 2019

Total posts 90

Originally Posted by Mightyreds

Originally Posted by WSQplat

Originally Posted by Mightyreds

Someone forgot to take their medication 🤣


It would be great if you posted something useful instead of pathetic, childish content.
I could say the same thing to you and your pathetic post. David should remove it as the maturity level is as low as it has even been with your post.
@Mightyreds. I criticized this immature post last week. But my post was deleted and the immature post was allowed to stand. Go figure out the 'editorial' team's priorities...

WSQplat

Member since 15 Dec 2021

Total posts 19

Originally Posted by Mightyreds

Originally Posted by WSQplat

Originally Posted by Mightyreds

Someone forgot to take their medication 🤣


It would be great if you posted something useful instead of pathetic, childish content.
I could say the same thing to you and your pathetic post. David should remove it as the maturity level is as low as it has even been with your post.


Pathetic? My post is an opinion backed up with logical economic reasoning and facts. Your anti-Qantas post was a childish, low-effort troll post with no argument whatsoever and just insults. Has (your employer?) Qatar Airways run out of legitimate arguments? Or have they never had them in the first place? Qatar’s whole campaign is based on fear and lies to make gullible Aussies hate Qantas and meatride Qatar’s ambitions for an unprecedented capacity expansion into this great country which must be resoundingly rejected.

Last editedby WSQplat at Jul 22, 2024, 12:05 PM.

Becky1

Jetstar Airways - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 04 May 2018

Total posts 34

Originally Posted by WSQplat

It's been a year!

On July 10, 2023, our excellent Minister for Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Development, the Hon. Catherine King MP, officially signed a document formally rejecting Qatar Airways' request for an unprecedented 28 extra flights, and also triggered an overblown and disproportionate sh*tstorm from people who love to suck on Qatar, including that ridiculous Senate Inquiry.

These decisions at the end of the day are good for Australia in the long-term. It protects the country from job losses and reduced profits. Reduced profits in Qantas are bad for our wealth as Qantas profits stay right here in Australia. If there is less of it, there is less wealth in our great nation. Airfares are already coming down significantly in 2024, so that's not a problem as well. So many Australian jobs have been protected in the past year. Qantas is now able to bounce back stronger than ever before due to less Qatar flights. For example, Qantas is returning to Paris on Thursday for the first time in 20 years! - But we need this to continue. All countries protect their local airlines, for example why can't you fly Emirates to Berlin? Exactly the same reason.


Airfares have already fallen a lot since then. So that's not a problem.

So happy Qatar Airways rejection day, everyone.
Last editedby WSQplat at Jul 10, 2024, 09:15 PM.

Your argument fails to mention all the jobs that could have been created, and all the money that could have flowed into Australia, and all the economic activity that could have eventuated had the minister granted Qatar's request.

1) Taxi / rideshare fares to and from the airport - hundreds every day

2) Hotels and AirBnB - thousands upon thousands of nights every week, tourists need somewhere to sleep

3) Bars and restaurants - tourists need to eat and drink

4) Sightseeing - tour operaters, tourist venues

5) Hire cars / rideshare vehicles - tourists need to get around

6) Domestic airlines - tourists tend to visit more than one city, Australia is a large country, and i include all 3 domestic airlines (Qantas, Virgin, Rex)

7) Dept. of Immigration - someone needs to process all those extra visitor visas

Above are all the direct jobs that could have eventuated, but there are indirect jobs as well

1) Transport - getting food and drink to bars, clubs and restaurants

2) Petrol stations for taxi's and rideshare operators

3) Cleaners / Laundry operators to clean hotel / Air bnb rooms

And the list goes on.....


WSQplat

Member since 15 Dec 2021

Total posts 19

Originally Posted by Becky1

Originally Posted by WSQplat

It's been a year!

On July 10, 2023, our excellent Minister for Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Development, the Hon. Catherine King MP, officially signed a document formally rejecting Qatar Airways' request for an unprecedented 28 extra flights, and also triggered an overblown and disproportionate sh*tstorm from people who love to suck on Qatar, including that ridiculous Senate Inquiry.

These decisions at the end of the day are good for Australia in the long-term. It protects the country from job losses and reduced profits. Reduced profits in Qantas are bad for our wealth as Qantas profits stay right here in Australia. If there is less of it, there is less wealth in our great nation. Airfares are already coming down significantly in 2024, so that's not a problem as well. So many Australian jobs have been protected in the past year. Qantas is now able to bounce back stronger than ever before due to less Qatar flights. For example, Qantas is returning to Paris on Thursday for the first time in 20 years! - But we need this to continue. All countries protect their local airlines, for example why can't you fly Emirates to Berlin? Exactly the same reason.


Airfares have already fallen a lot since then. So that's not a problem.

So happy Qatar Airways rejection day, everyone.
Last editedby WSQplat at Jul 10, 2024, 09:15 PM.

Your argument fails to mention all the jobs that could have been created, and all the money that could have flowed into Australia, and all the economic activity that could have eventuated had the minister granted Qatar's request.

1) Taxi / rideshare fares to and from the airport - hundreds every day

2) Hotels and AirBnB - thousands upon thousands of nights every week, tourists need somewhere to sleep

3) Bars and restaurants - tourists need to eat and drink

4) Sightseeing - tour operaters, tourist venues

5) Hire cars / rideshare vehicles - tourists need to get around

6) Domestic airlines - tourists tend to visit more than one city, Australia is a large country, and i include all 3 domestic airlines (Qantas, Virgin, Rex)

7) Dept. of Immigration - someone needs to process all those extra visitor visas

Above are all the direct jobs that could have eventuated, but there are indirect jobs as well

1) Transport - getting food and drink to bars, clubs and restaurants

2) Petrol stations for taxi's and rideshare operators

3) Cleaners / Laundry operators to clean hotel / Air bnb rooms

And the list goes on.....


And if Qatar gets more flights into Australia, there will be more Australians wanting to travel overseas instead of domestically, which offsets everything you've said above :) Hence will be a net zero change in economic activity, or even a reduction of money to those things you've listed above as more Australians tend to travel overseas than the amount of overseas visitors coming to Australia. HA!


Last editedby WSQplat at Jul 22, 2024, 05:16 PM.

Becky1

Jetstar Airways - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 04 May 2018

Total posts 34

Originally Posted by WSQplat

Originally Posted by Becky1

Originally Posted by WSQplat

It's been a year!

On July 10, 2023, our excellent Minister for Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Development, the Hon. Catherine King MP, officially signed a document formally rejecting Qatar Airways' request for an unprecedented 28 extra flights, and also triggered an overblown and disproportionate sh*tstorm from people who love to suck on Qatar, including that ridiculous Senate Inquiry.

These decisions at the end of the day are good for Australia in the long-term. It protects the country from job losses and reduced profits. Reduced profits in Qantas are bad for our wealth as Qantas profits stay right here in Australia. If there is less of it, there is less wealth in our great nation. Airfares are already coming down significantly in 2024, so that's not a problem as well. So many Australian jobs have been protected in the past year. Qantas is now able to bounce back stronger than ever before due to less Qatar flights. For example, Qantas is returning to Paris on Thursday for the first time in 20 years! - But we need this to continue. All countries protect their local airlines, for example why can't you fly Emirates to Berlin? Exactly the same reason.


Airfares have already fallen a lot since then. So that's not a problem.

So happy Qatar Airways rejection day, everyone.
Last editedby WSQplat at Jul 10, 2024, 09:15 PM.

Your argument fails to mention all the jobs that could have been created, and all the money that could have flowed into Australia, and all the economic activity that could have eventuated had the minister granted Qatar's request.

1) Taxi / rideshare fares to and from the airport - hundreds every day

2) Hotels and AirBnB - thousands upon thousands of nights every week, tourists need somewhere to sleep

3) Bars and restaurants - tourists need to eat and drink

4) Sightseeing - tour operaters, tourist venues

5) Hire cars / rideshare vehicles - tourists need to get around

6) Domestic airlines - tourists tend to visit more than one city, Australia is a large country, and i include all 3 domestic airlines (Qantas, Virgin, Rex)

7) Dept. of Immigration - someone needs to process all those extra visitor visas

Above are all the direct jobs that could have eventuated, but there are indirect jobs as well

1) Transport - getting food and drink to bars, clubs and restaurants

2) Petrol stations for taxi's and rideshare operators

3) Cleaners / Laundry operators to clean hotel / Air bnb rooms

And the list goes on.....


And if Qatar gets more flights into Australia, there will be more Australians wanting to travel overseas instead of domestically, which offsets everything you've said above :) Hence will be a net zero change in economic activity, or even a reduction of money to those things you've listed above as more Australians tend to travel overseas than the amount of overseas visitors coming to Australia. HA!


Last editedby WSQplat at Jul 22, 2024, 05:16 PM.
And with more Australians wanting to travel overseas (because they have the money to), then Qantas can put on more flights overseas, to more destinations, to help cater for the increased demand, which means they’ll employ more people, and make even more profits. And this will in turn increase the share price, which will make shareholders like yourself even richer (and happier).

Caversham04

Member since 30 Mar 2014

Total posts 11

Originally Posted by Mightyreds

Someone forgot to take their medication 🤣

At least we now know what John Setka's decided to do with his extra spare time..... :-)

WSQplat

Member since 15 Dec 2021

Total posts 19

Originally Posted by Becky1

Originally Posted by WSQplat

Originally Posted by Becky1

Originally Posted by WSQplat

It's been a year!

On July 10, 2023, our excellent Minister for Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Development, the Hon. Catherine King MP, officially signed a document formally rejecting Qatar Airways' request for an unprecedented 28 extra flights, and also triggered an overblown and disproportionate sh*tstorm from people who love to suck on Qatar, including that ridiculous Senate Inquiry.

These decisions at the end of the day are good for Australia in the long-term. It protects the country from job losses and reduced profits. Reduced profits in Qantas are bad for our wealth as Qantas profits stay right here in Australia. If there is less of it, there is less wealth in our great nation. Airfares are already coming down significantly in 2024, so that's not a problem as well. So many Australian jobs have been protected in the past year. Qantas is now able to bounce back stronger than ever before due to less Qatar flights. For example, Qantas is returning to Paris on Thursday for the first time in 20 years! - But we need this to continue. All countries protect their local airlines, for example why can't you fly Emirates to Berlin? Exactly the same reason.


Airfares have already fallen a lot since then. So that's not a problem.

So happy Qatar Airways rejection day, everyone.
Last editedby WSQplat at Jul 10, 2024, 09:15 PM.

Your argument fails to mention all the jobs that could have been created, and all the money that could have flowed into Australia, and all the economic activity that could have eventuated had the minister granted Qatar's request.

1) Taxi / rideshare fares to and from the airport - hundreds every day

2) Hotels and AirBnB - thousands upon thousands of nights every week, tourists need somewhere to sleep

3) Bars and restaurants - tourists need to eat and drink

4) Sightseeing - tour operaters, tourist venues

5) Hire cars / rideshare vehicles - tourists need to get around

6) Domestic airlines - tourists tend to visit more than one city, Australia is a large country, and i include all 3 domestic airlines (Qantas, Virgin, Rex)

7) Dept. of Immigration - someone needs to process all those extra visitor visas

Above are all the direct jobs that could have eventuated, but there are indirect jobs as well

1) Transport - getting food and drink to bars, clubs and restaurants

2) Petrol stations for taxi's and rideshare operators

3) Cleaners / Laundry operators to clean hotel / Air bnb rooms

And the list goes on.....


And if Qatar gets more flights into Australia, there will be more Australians wanting to travel overseas instead of domestically, which offsets everything you've said above :) Hence will be a net zero change in economic activity, or even a reduction of money to those things you've listed above as more Australians tend to travel overseas than the amount of overseas visitors coming to Australia. HA!


Last editedby WSQplat at Jul 22, 2024, 05:16 PM.
And with more Australians wanting to travel overseas (because they have the money to), then Qantas can put on more flights overseas, to more destinations, to help cater for the increased demand, which means they’ll employ more people, and make even more profits. And this will in turn increase the share price, which will make shareholders like yourself even richer (and happier).

That’s simply false. But even if that’s the case, Qantas would have to cut back previously profitable domestic routes. Your point being?


Stop trying to evoke some sort of silver lining. Qatar Airways and their Qatar Government owners want a dodgy one-sided deal so they can reap all the benefits, flood the market, kill off local Australian jobs and extract wealth from our great nation.

WSQplat

Member since 15 Dec 2021

Total posts 19

Originally Posted by Caversham04

Originally Posted by Mightyreds

Someone forgot to take their medication 🤣

At least we now know what John Setka's decided to do with his extra spare time..... :-)

Wtf does John Setka have to do with this?

Serg

QFF

Member since 12 Apr 2013

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Wow! Such a battlefield!

Becky1

Jetstar Airways - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 04 May 2018

Total posts 34

Originally Posted by WSQplat

Originally Posted by Mightyreds

Originally Posted by WSQplat

Originally Posted by Mightyreds

Someone forgot to take their medication 🤣


It would be great if you posted something useful instead of pathetic, childish content.
I could say the same thing to you and your pathetic post. David should remove it as the maturity level is as low as it has even been with your post.


Pathetic? My post is an opinion backed up with logical economic reasoning and facts. Your anti-Qantas post was a childish, low-effort troll post with no argument whatsoever and just insults. Has (your employer?) Qatar Airways run out of legitimate arguments? Or have they never had them in the first place? Qatar’s whole campaign is based on fear and lies to make gullible Aussies hate Qantas and meatride Qatar’s ambitions for an unprecedented capacity expansion into this great country which must be resoundingly rejected.

Last editedby WSQplat at Jul 22, 2024, 12:05 PM.
You asked on another post the point of my argument. Your post might be an opinion, but is not backed up with logical economic reasoning and facts. Your opinion is short sighted and much like swiss cheese, so many holes in your argument that an a380 can fly through. Your original post is designed to flame and bait. I agree with Mightyreds that your original post, as written, should have been moderated and removed. I do not object to your opinion that Qatar's application should have been rejected, but your post is just one huge childish dummy spit. And here endeth my contribution to this thread.

WSQplat

Member since 15 Dec 2021

Total posts 19

Originally Posted by Becky1

Originally Posted by WSQplat

Originally Posted by Mightyreds

Originally Posted by WSQplat

Originally Posted by Mightyreds

Someone forgot to take their medication 🤣


It would be great if you posted something useful instead of pathetic, childish content.
I could say the same thing to you and your pathetic post. David should remove it as the maturity level is as low as it has even been with your post.


Pathetic? My post is an opinion backed up with logical economic reasoning and facts. Your anti-Qantas post was a childish, low-effort troll post with no argument whatsoever and just insults. Has (your employer?) Qatar Airways run out of legitimate arguments? Or have they never had them in the first place? Qatar’s whole campaign is based on fear and lies to make gullible Aussies hate Qantas and meatride Qatar’s ambitions for an unprecedented capacity expansion into this great country which must be resoundingly rejected.

Last editedby WSQplat at Jul 22, 2024, 12:05 PM.
You asked on another post the point of my argument. Your post might be an opinion, but is not backed up with logical economic reasoning and facts. Your opinion is short sighted and much like swiss cheese, so many holes in your argument that an a380 can fly through. Your original post is designed to flame and bait. I agree with Mightyreds that your original post, as written, should have been moderated and removed. I do not object to your opinion that Qatar's application should have been rejected, but your post is just one huge childish dummy spit. And here endeth my contribution to this thread.

Pot kettle black mate. Your entire argument of more jobs in tourism, hotels, restaurants etc if Qatar gets more flights to AU is completely false as Qatar will be flying more Australians out of the country than bringing tourists in, which is actually bad for all those services you listed above as less Aussies take a domestic holiday if Qatar significantly lowers airfares. I’ve said this before.


Bruh, my argument is the only one with logical economic reasoning and facts which mentions the national interest. Your one wants to make our country worse. Why don’t you condemn the “Hi Alan” and “take your medication” posts for also being childish low-effort troll attempts by the Qatar supporters? Those posters stoop to such lows because let’s face it, Qatar have no real arguments for increased flights that would be beneficial to our nation.

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