Qantas PE. Who in their sane mind buying one? Seriously - just made dummy quote and MEL to Moscow and back is about 6.5K while Finnair charge mere 5.4K for business (and it is possible to make your own even cheaper via BKK if you happy to sleep over there!) and if one does not like two connections than Etihad welcomes you for 6.2K in Business. Does not matter how great QF PE is I am 110% positive that Business in Finnair is far far far better and one earning almost the same credits and points. Not mention sauna in Helsinki lounge.
Qantas don't fly to Moscow so I am guessing your saying a QF flight from MEL to DXB then an EK flight from DXB to Moscow in Economy (Or QF from MEL to London then onto Moscow)
What dates where you looking at cause it would be cheaper to book the two flights as seperate bookings
I can see PE flights on the route for around $2000 with china southern
I can also find Lunfthansa PE for around $2800 with SQ operating the leg up to singapore
Guess find what other thinking. You right about "similar to religious faith". I became once again curious because they reject upgrade ticket for my father to Business and did it for PE thereby p!ssing me because I cannot grasp whole PE fuss and yes I flown one, though a while back and with BA. Since then I decided never again. As least for money asked by QF. And I just love JQ star class for daytime flight (it similar to PE) because believe that it just spot on money.
It is correct RE DXB-DMO by Emirates in economy. Thus it making price only more ridiculous. Price in QF PE to LHR is about 7K while BA Business often sells at 7.5K. PE to Europe should be no more then twice of economy to make it any sense (i.e. 3.5K or so) and even then I would think twice if I need it comparing that I flown Business in March with Finnair plus some redemption for less then 3K both ways.
And I am not talking PE with Lufthansa or China Southern, but with Qantas :-))))
I don't know about you, but as a rule in life I research and make decisions based on my requirements/circumstances...I certainly wouldn't make a decision based on someone elses rant.
And what makes you believe after reading my "rant" that I will make my decision on someone else "rant"? If you happy to pay 6.5K for PE I will be only happy for you and for me - more Business places for 5K remains for me :-)))
One may say the same of an f ticket for 14 k to europe. It is horses for courses, as long as there are takers and an airline can turn a profit then they will offer the product. Many people flying pe are unlikely to be ff and will therefore stick with the national carrier for simplicity regardless of value.
I disagree regarding First. Yes, I would not pay because I fail to see value for money, but no one can deny that First is better than Business and it up to you to decide if it worth extra load of cash. But when PE from QF cost MORE then Business from other reputable carrier like AY (heck! half-way would be by QF anyway!) that arguably better by any means (seats, lounge access, baggage allowance etc) I cannot comprehend who is buying PE and how Qantas manage to sell them.
Serg
Serg
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Qantas PE. Who in their sane mind buying one? Seriously - just made dummy quote and MEL to Moscow and back is about 6.5K while Finnair charge mere 5.4K for business (and it is possible to make your own even cheaper via BKK if you happy to sleep over there!) and if one does not like two connections than Etihad welcomes you for 6.2K in Business. Does not matter how great QF PE is I am 110% positive that Business in Finnair is far far far better and one earning almost the same credits and points. Not mention sauna in Helsinki lounge.
henrus
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Qantas don't fly to Moscow so I am guessing your saying a QF flight from MEL to DXB then an EK flight from DXB to Moscow in Economy (Or QF from MEL to London then onto Moscow)
What dates where you looking at cause it would be cheaper to book the two flights as seperate bookings
I can see PE flights on the route for around $2000 with china southern
I can also find Lunfthansa PE for around $2800 with SQ operating the leg up to singapore
TheRealBabushka
TheRealBabushka
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Serg,
What do you hope to achieve by asking this question?
Faith in PE is similar to religious faith; people can always rationalise it as would others who could equally knock it down.
Serg
Serg
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Guess find what other thinking. You right about "similar to religious faith". I became once again curious because they reject upgrade ticket for my father to Business and did it for PE thereby p!ssing me because I cannot grasp whole PE fuss and yes I flown one, though a while back and with BA. Since then I decided never again. As least for money asked by QF. And I just love JQ star class for daytime flight (it similar to PE) because believe that it just spot on money.
undertheradar Banned
undertheradar Banned
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each to their own
watson374
watson374
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#YMMV
Serg
Serg
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It is correct RE DXB-DMO by Emirates in economy. Thus it making price only more ridiculous. Price in QF PE to LHR is about 7K while BA Business often sells at 7.5K. PE to Europe should be no more then twice of economy to make it any sense (i.e. 3.5K or so) and even then I would think twice if I need it comparing that I flown Business in March with Finnair plus some redemption for less then 3K both ways.
And I am not talking PE with Lufthansa or China Southern, but with Qantas :-))))
undertheradar Banned
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I don't know about you, but as a rule in life I research and make decisions based on my requirements/circumstances...I certainly wouldn't make a decision based on someone elses rant.
Serg
Serg
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And what makes you believe after reading my "rant" that I will make my decision on someone else "rant"? If you happy to pay 6.5K for PE I will be only happy for you and for me - more Business places for 5K remains for me :-)))
obanpointer
obanpointer
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One may say the same of an f ticket for 14 k to europe. It is horses for courses, as long as there are takers and an airline can turn a profit then they will offer the product. Many people flying pe are unlikely to be ff and will therefore stick with the national carrier for simplicity regardless of value.
Serg
Serg
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I disagree regarding First. Yes, I would not pay because I fail to see value for money, but no one can deny that First is better than Business and it up to you to decide if it worth extra load of cash. But when PE from QF cost MORE then Business from other reputable carrier like AY (heck! half-way would be by QF anyway!) that arguably better by any means (seats, lounge access, baggage allowance etc) I cannot comprehend who is buying PE and how Qantas manage to sell them.