We are planning a trip to Europe in late 2016, and Qantas and Finnair are offering a return business class fare of about $5000.

We are planning a trip to Europe in late 2016, and Qantas and Finnair are offering a return business class fare of about $5000. It seems excellent value. Wondering whether anyone has any experience of Finnair they'd like to share, especially of the new business class product.

You might like to check which gateway city in Asia. The new AY a350 does not go to all of them (just Shanghai at the moment?), and the remainder are served by much older equipment with lesser quality J class seats. Perhaps by late 2016 you'll find the a350 at more ports.

By late 2016 you should have the A350 on the flights that connect to QF in Asia. AY will put the A350 on PVG>BKK>HKG>SIN with SIN supposed to be daily in August 2016.

Can you give me detauls of this fare it sounds very good value, where did you purchase it from?

Sounds like a split booking through a travel agency for sure.

Recently flew AY HEL to Tokyo on A340...whilst the seat converted to flat, it was not in the same league as QF or Emirates...I found it much more cramped & with limited leg room as your feet go into the back of the chair infront....but at those prices I'd certainly go again!

Thanks for the advice, all. The fare was found on on the first class travel website. It's available until Monday.

I love Finnair and I flown in "second-new" (not newest, but those that similar to Swissair) and absolutely love it. If you travel together then you can get double seat and if you alone you can get single one. Also plan your trip in such way that you can have as least 4 hours in Helsinki on your trip to Australia - they have sauna there and it marvelous.

BTW where you seen QF return business to Europe for $5K?

The $5k Europe return is available from the AY website in Aus. Between Aus and Asia the planes are QF or CX but there are not many $5k fares where the QF and CX legs are both in J. They exist, but a lot of the time one of these legs is J and the other Y.  I flew MEL-TXL-MEL via HKG in September/October for that price with CX J MEL-HKG and QF J HKG-MEL but on most days for $5k HKG-MEL was QF Y. Only booked 2 weeks in advance.

Based on the answer above from capitalstar, try firstclass.com.au. I think it would be on a Finnair ticket and could use QF or CX for the AU sector.

firstclass.com.au? Good luck then!

I've had to be slightly flexible about dates, but I have just confirmed a booking SYD-BKK-HEL-LHR (with a forced overnight in BKK at my expense, on QF metal to BKK then AY thru to LHR.  Returning CDG-HEL-BKK-SYD, with a 3 night stopover in BKK (at no extra charge), on AY (A350) and QF (A330) metal, for $5191 incl. all taxes.  All in Business (I class). I reckon that's not a bad deal.