In the upcoming QF/EK arrangement it appears that the codeshare flts with QF number but operated by EK are not allowed to be used on a OneWorld Explorer fare. As QF are directing most of its EU traffic via Dubai, this drastically reducess options for using the Explorer fare in this way. Does anyone have any thoughts re this? Do you think QF may reconsider and include codeshare flts on EK metal [at least to and from Dubai] in the fare.
I would agree that it'd be much more useful to have QF-marketed EK flights for an Explorer fare, but I'm a lot less certain that you'd want to redeem an AK flight (AirAsia (Malaysia)).
oneworld explorer is a topic I've been thinking about since the announcement, though I'm not sure I understand your concern. I don't see how oneworld would be able to accept that a non-oneworld airline flights being used for oneworld explorer. I don't think the issue has anything to do with Qantas but Emirates/oneworld. Emirates and oneworld have no relationship, and Emirates would get no revenue from a oneworld explorer passenger. In alliances, 1 degree of separation means you have no relationship. I don't see the issue also because even though Qantas has cancelled some Asian flights, you can still use the oneworld explorer fare on a whole variety of non-Qantas flights such as BA, CX, FY, etc...???
I am yet to see an updated version of the oneworld explorer rules, but I am much more interested to see if I can finally skip Asia in a 4 continent explorer fare, OR even do 3 continents (Aus - Europe - US). (Dubai is considered by oneworld to be a part of Europe).
4 continent explorer skipping asia: Pacific, Africa, Europe, North America or South America.
Can't purchase a 3 continent departing southern hemisphere - "Three continent fares are only available in the Northern Hemisphere".
Pacific to Europe - "Travel between South West Pacific and Europe/Middle East on a single flight number/or by surface is considered travelling SWP-Asia-Europe/Middle East through three continents."
Suggestion - consider Africa and South America (great QF flight to santiago on the refurbished 747 in top deck).
QF codeshare with many other non-oneworld airlines (vietnam airlines, etc), these are not oneworld affiliated (like EK) and are not available on a ONE ticket.
true re there being other options but it still closes a lot of options too.
i realise the difficulty under current arrangements but it would be logistical and accounting wise to make an exception. After all there are already exceptions for odd things and as long as Emirates were compensated in the way a 1W airline is, then maybe?????
as far as i can make out we should be able to do a 3 continent from AU and also skip asia on a 4 cont. also depends on routing re 4 cont. as we can already skip asia if you go via africa. but not go N and S america.
But as you say, they may change rules or geography
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tuzza1
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In the upcoming QF/EK arrangement it appears that the codeshare flts with QF number but operated by EK are not allowed to be used on a OneWorld Explorer fare. As QF are directing most of its EU traffic via Dubai, this drastically reducess options for using the Explorer fare in this way. Does anyone have any thoughts re this? Do you think QF may reconsider and include codeshare flts on EK metal [at least to and from Dubai] in the fare.
watson374
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I would agree that it'd be much more useful to have QF-marketed EK flights for an Explorer fare, but I'm a lot less certain that you'd want to redeem an AK flight (AirAsia (Malaysia)).
tuzza1
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Darn, i meant EK....sorry folks. hope it makes more sence now
John Walton
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*jedi admin handwave* This isn't the typo you're looking for.
spinoza
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oneworld explorer is a topic I've been thinking about since the announcement, though I'm not sure I understand your concern. I don't see how oneworld would be able to accept that a non-oneworld airline flights being used for oneworld explorer. I don't think the issue has anything to do with Qantas but Emirates/oneworld. Emirates and oneworld have no relationship, and Emirates would get no revenue from a oneworld explorer passenger. In alliances, 1 degree of separation means you have no relationship. I don't see the issue also because even though Qantas has cancelled some Asian flights, you can still use the oneworld explorer fare on a whole variety of non-Qantas flights such as BA, CX, FY, etc...???
I am yet to see an updated version of the oneworld explorer rules, but I am much more interested to see if I can finally skip Asia in a 4 continent explorer fare, OR even do 3 continents (Aus - Europe - US). (Dubai is considered by oneworld to be a part of Europe).
DaveK
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4 continent explorer skipping asia: Pacific, Africa, Europe, North America or South America.
Can't purchase a 3 continent departing southern hemisphere - "Three continent fares are only available in the Northern Hemisphere".
Pacific to Europe - "Travel between South West Pacific and Europe/Middle East on a single flight number/or by surface is considered travelling SWP-Asia-Europe/Middle East through three continents."
Suggestion - consider Africa and South America (great QF flight to santiago on the refurbished 747 in top deck).
QF codeshare with many other non-oneworld airlines (vietnam airlines, etc), these are not oneworld affiliated (like EK) and are not available on a ONE ticket.
spinoza
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hmm i was hoping to do a 3 continent: Pacific, Europe, S America.
Sounds like the most interesting for me to do is Pacific, Africa, Europe, S America.
Just not sure if there's many good routes within Africa since oneworld doesn't have any African airlines??
tuzza1
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true re there being other options but it still closes a lot of options too.
i realise the difficulty under current arrangements but it would be logistical and accounting wise to make an exception. After all there are already exceptions for odd things and as long as Emirates were compensated in the way a 1W airline is, then maybe?????
as far as i can make out we should be able to do a 3 continent from AU and also skip asia on a 4 cont. also depends on routing re 4 cont. as we can already skip asia if you go via africa. but not go N and S america.
But as you say, they may change rules or geography