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Taylor
Taylor
Singapore Airlines - The PPS Club
Member since 19 Mar 2016
Total posts 53
In the most respective way possible, I don't at this stage of time see any difference between "getting around the rules" and breaking the law. No difference what so ever.
If it was a FF hack, yes but this for what its worth in my opinion this isn't the time nor place for such commentary/question.
521303
521303
Member since 03 Jan 2012
Total posts 62
Further to my original post. whilst folks may feel that I owe others some kind of "duty of care" for breathing, no such duty actually exists. I maintain that the risk of Covid 19, as originally modelled by Ferguson et al that led to lock down in the first place was that around 3.6% of the population would die. WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. Evidence of actual deaths from both the UK and USA is clearly shlowing that real deaths (rather than modelled ones) are about 0.1 - 0.2% overall and around 0.002 for anyone aged under 45. They're incredibly low for anyone under 65 (working age population). Lockdown was a massive mistake and the quicker we get the economy going and people travelling again the better. There are far easier and more effective ways of protecting the elderly than locking every citizen up for months and years. Why should I suffer because you all accepted a mistaken Policy decision by our respective Governments in the UK, USA and Australia (and even worse in NZ)? Bad rules deserve no respect. One more comment, the actual risk for anyone under 24 years old in the UK and USA is around 1 death for every 3,500,000 residents in that age band. By comparison, 1 person in 700,000 wil die from lightning strike. The risk is so ridiculously small it is unbelievable that grown adults are actually complying with "the rules".
rckjiang
rckjiang
Member since 16 Jun 2017
Total posts 40
This is the worst case of “your rules don't apply to me because I'm somehow privileged” type of attitude.... pull your head out of it....
snapperhead
snapperhead
Member since 17 Feb 2020
Total posts 5
I suggest you see what's occurring in the USA this week, especially with the new diagnosed cases of people under 45. If you don't like the decisions of certain governments, then maybe you would be better off living in Brazil, where you poor attitude would be more acceptable.
AnthonyConstantinou
AnthonyConstantinou
Member since 26 Jun 2020
Total posts 1
As far as mortality's concern, it would be good if we follow the quarantine rule.
patrickk
patrickk
Qantas
Member since 19 Apr 2012
Total posts 737
Originally Posted by 521303
Further to my original post. whilst folks may feel that I owe others some kind of "duty of care" for breathing, no such duty actually exists. I maintain that the risk of Covid 19, as originally modelled by Ferguson et al that led to lock down in the first place was that around 3.6% of the population would die. WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. Evidence of actual deaths from both the UK and USA is clearly shlowing that real deaths (rather than modelled ones) are about 0.1 - 0.2% overall and around 0.002 for anyone aged under 45. They're incredibly low for anyone under 65 (working age population). Lockdown was a massive mistake and the quicker we get the economy going and people travelling again the better. There are far easier and more effective ways of protecting the elderly than locking every citizen up for months and years. Why should I suffer because you all accepted a mistaken Policy decision by our respective Governments in the UK, USA and Australia (and even worse in NZ)? Bad rules deserve no respect. One more comment, the actual risk for anyone under 24 years old in the UK and USA is around 1 death for every 3,500,000 residents in that age band. By comparison, 1 person in 700,000 wil die from lightning strike. The risk is so ridiculously small it is unbelievable that grown adults are actually complying with "the rules".
pb2492
pb2492
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 31 May 2019
Total posts 12
The rules state that there is a 'common travel area' of the UK and Republic of Ireland, however if you land in Dublin and fill in your entry card nominating an address in England, you will not be asked for that card or to fill in a new one on your arrival in England. Some people have therefore concluded this is a loophole to entering the UK without adhering to the 14 day isolation. It is worth considering that they plan to do random checks at addresses nominated, the fines are around £1000, and a violation may get you prohibited from entry to the UK in future. There is also talk that regional lockdowns may be implemented where infection rates spike, which would forcefully prohibit domestic travel in/through those regions (i.e. no loopholes... the police will just take you away).
XWu
XWu
Member since 09 May 2020
Total posts 197
Originally Posted by pb2492
The rules state that there is a 'common travel area' of the UK and Republic of Ireland, however if you land in Dublin and fill in your entry card nominating an address in England, you will not be asked for that card or to fill in a new one on your arrival in England. Some people have therefore concluded this is a loophole to entering the UK without adhering to the 14 day isolation. It is worth considering that they plan to do random checks at addresses nominated, the fines are around £1000, and a violation may get you prohibited from entry to the UK in future. There is also talk that regional lockdowns may be implemented where infection rates spike, which would forcefully prohibit domestic travel in/through those regions (i.e. no loopholes... the police will just take you away).
Clancy
Clancy
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 31 Jan 2016
Total posts 79
521303
It's a sad indictment when Nick Kyrgios is the sound option.
patrickk
patrickk
Qantas
Member since 19 Apr 2012
Total posts 737
Originally Posted by Clancy
521303
It's a sad indictment when Nick Kyrgios is the sound option.
P
P
Member since 17 Jan 2018
Total posts 20
Believe (EU) and by default the UK (until they leave of course) has seen the light and recognised the need to open up their economies to/visitors from low risk countries. Problem solved! On the other hand A,NZ can continue to isolate themselves for as long as the politicians want (and public opinion supports) but the island mentality does not work in a Global economy for countries with small populations and limited influence. A,NZ will pay a disproportionate price as a result.
patrickk
patrickk
Qantas
Member since 19 Apr 2012
Total posts 737
P a quick check will show most countries of the world currently require a 14 day quarantine, so we are not alone.
J Wilmore
J Wilmore
Air France - Flying Blue
Member since 10 Nov 2017
Total posts 3
A bit of a moot point now that the UK has allowed arrivals from Australia without quarantine, but the OP could have flown to Dublin and advised the Republic of Ireland border control that they were staying 14 days in Belfast, exit the terminal then re enter the terminal later in the day and taken a flight to the UK mainland.
rnickey mouse
rnickey mouse
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 13 Jan 2018
Total posts 5
What an entertaining thread. Loving it. 521303, please post more.