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SaltyJ
SaltyJ
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
Member since 06 Dec 2012
Total posts 157
Hi Everyone,
I have VA business class flights booked for travel in the middle of a trip to Cairns.
Fly from NSW up to Cairns - for 4 days - then original flights were CNS-PER direct - in business class - for a week - then PER-CNS - then 3 more days in CNS then fly back to NSW.
Due to the lower demand for flights and airlines changing routes/planes as a result ( I understand this has always been part and parcel of air travel) - Virgin have scraped the "newly" introduced CNS-PER direct route - so my flights were changed by Virgin to CNS-BNE / BNE- PER and same on the way back.
The issue is I got the direct flights for $399 each way from CNS-PER - but now that route is scrapped - the detour via BNE means its four flights in Business class and the fares are $1200 each way - Again I understand that changing a fare has always had the caveat of paying for a fare difference - but I would guess that if the CNS-PER direct route was still and option - even though it might have gone up - it probably wouldn't be $1200 - maybe it would.
The issue is with the WA govt now saying they will open on Feb 5 but you have to quarantine for 14 days and test etc - I am supposed to arrive on Feb 16-for a week - so this is not and option - but to change any flights into future dates - they are all via BNE - no direct - has anyone had a similar situation? I am guessing my only options are to take a flight credit - or cough up the more than 3 x price I paid for the tickets. The other issue is -I was always going to Cairns - but when the direct Perth flights became available - I extended my leave and decide to go to Perth in the middle of the trip - so even If i do change the flights and pay the difference - I then also have to get more flights to Cairns to be able to catch the changed Perth flights - what a cluster F***.
Sorry for the rant.
XWu
XWu
Member since 09 May 2020
Total posts 197
Originally Posted by SaltyJ
Hi Everyone,
I have VA business class flights booked for travel in the middle of a trip to Cairns.
Fly from NSW up to Cairns - for 4 days - then original flights were CNS-PER direct - in business class - for a week - then PER-CNS - then 3 more days in CNS then fly back to NSW.
Due to the lower demand for flights and airlines changing routes/planes as a result ( I understand this has always been part and parcel of air travel) - Virgin have scraped the "newly" introduced CNS-PER direct route - so my flights were changed by Virgin to CNS-BNE / BNE- PER and same on the way back.
The issue is I got the direct flights for $399 each way from CNS-PER - but now that route is scrapped - the detour via BNE means its four flights in Business class and the fares are $1200 each way - Again I understand that changing a fare has always had the caveat of paying for a fare difference - but I would guess that if the CNS-PER direct route was still and option - even though it might have gone up - it probably wouldn't be $1200 - maybe it would.
The issue is with the WA govt now saying they will open on Feb 5 but you have to quarantine for 14 days and test etc - I am supposed to arrive on Feb 16-for a week - so this is not and option - but to change any flights into future dates - they are all via BNE - no direct - has anyone had a similar situation? I am guessing my only options are to take a flight credit - or cough up the more than 3 x price I paid for the tickets. The other issue is -I was always going to Cairns - but when the direct Perth flights became available - I extended my leave and decide to go to Perth in the middle of the trip - so even If i do change the flights and pay the difference - I then also have to get more flights to Cairns to be able to catch the changed Perth flights - what a cluster F***.
Sorry for the rant.
Sorry but I must have missed something in your account of the problem but I thought WA is pretty much keeping up the hard border stance except maybe more compassionate travel allowance for returning WA residents or those visiting WA family (sort of), so you must be having some special reason to be even given an approved G2G pass (quarantine or not) coming from NSW via QLD trying to WA
See (wa.gov.au/government/announcements/was-updated-safe-transition-plan-5-february-2022) funny that their picture of Australia had hard lines between other states but a porous (dashed) line separating WA and the rest of Australia!
Given the hard border continuing I wouldn't be surprised if the flights BNE-PER will be canceled or consolidated to another flight; under QF that can trigger the clause to ask for a refund (for almost any fare) but expect to spend hours on the phone. However VA doesn't have that refund clause unless the fare specifically says so, (and at $399 J class CNS-PER I am not sure it is one of them but do look up the T&Cs with the ticket anyway).
It looks like you are hoping to keep the CNS-PER tickets to enjoy the cheap fare but you probably already realised it's false economy in the extra time and cost involved in getting to CNS especially to make this trip. And who knows if VA is even going to continue with this route in the future even if WA reopen (they may get too used to be living separately from the rest of Australia).
Personally I would simply get the credit and use it for a regular VA flight ASAP unless you can get a refund.
SaltyJ
SaltyJ
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
Member since 06 Dec 2012
Total posts 157
Thanks for the reply XWu - unless I missed something - the thing that you missed is until less than 24 hours ago - the plan for WA to open up on Feb 5 - was that -
All domestic arrivals aged 12 and over must be double dose vaccinated unless ineligible or medically exempt.
Testing requirements for domestic arrivals fall under three categories:
StuartandKevin
StuartandKevin
Member since 03 Jun 2021
Total posts 5
Cancel booking is the only option and maybe wait until 2023
It is now clear that McGowan has no plan whatsoever and takes a lot of pleasure in keeping the state locked up. A promise is no longer a promise. Does he not realise that mental health presentations to doctors and at hospitals are going to increase even more now, I will be one of them after having to cancel booking to see daughter who have seen for over two years…thank you McGowan
XWu
XWu
Member since 09 May 2020
Total posts 197
Originally Posted by StuartandKevin
Cancel booking is the only option and maybe wait until 2023
It is now clear that McGowan has no plan whatsoever and takes a lot of pleasure in keeping the state locked up. A promise is no longer a promise. Does he not realise that mental health presentations to doctors and at hospitals are going to increase even more now, I will be one of them after having to cancel booking to see daughter who have seen for over two years…thank you McGowan
It meant WA hospitals probably have no capacity whatsoever to withstand a wave of COVID-19. Without being political too much, the McGowan government did have 9 months to improve the situation since re election in March 2021, although I must admit I don’t expect it being an easy or quick fix.
The issue is that whatever the plan they may have to buff up the hospital system and “flatten the curve”, there is simply no slack in the system to work on
KW72 Banned
KW72 Banned
Member since 17 Jun 2020
Total posts 66
No point planning any travel to WA whilst the fascist dictator is in charge. Which could be indefinite given WA is now a one party state.
nige00160
nige00160
Member since 07 Jan 2016
Total posts 64
He obviously wants to avoid the calamity of whats happening on the east coast at the moment, at least until things settle down. Also gives WA more time to build their RAT test supplies and increase their Booster rollout numbers. Looking at his approval rating at the moment, he obviously has strong community support for his position.
hakkinen5
hakkinen5
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 20 Aug 2014
Total posts 207
Cairns to Perth direct? I didn't realise that was a thing. That must be seriously stretching the legs of a 737 on the West bound sector. BNE to PER is already well over 5 hours, and CNS is a lot further north. Anyhow, if as you say Virgin has rebooked you CNS to PER via BNE instead of direct I don't see how this costs you any money? It's up to Virgin to get you from A to B via any route they want, at no additional cost to you.
patrickk
patrickk
Qantas
Member since 19 Apr 2012
Total posts 737
Originally Posted by StuartandKevin
Cancel booking is the only option and maybe wait until 2023
It is now clear that McGowan has no plan whatsoever and takes a lot of pleasure in keeping the state locked up. A promise is no longer a promise. Does he not realise that mental health presentations to doctors and at hospitals are going to increase even more now, I will be one of them after having to cancel booking to see daughter who have seen for over two years…thank you McGowan
KW72 Banned
KW72 Banned
Member since 17 Jun 2020
Total posts 66
Originally Posted by patrickk
Originally Posted by StuartandKevin
Cancel booking is the only option and maybe wait until 2023
It is now clear that McGowan has no plan whatsoever and takes a lot of pleasure in keeping the state locked up. A promise is no longer a promise. Does he not realise that mental health presentations to doctors and at hospitals are going to increase even more now, I will be one of them after having to cancel booking to see daughter who have seen for over two years…thank you McGowan
patrickk
patrickk
Qantas
Member since 19 Apr 2012
Total posts 737
Originally Posted by KW72
Originally Posted by patrickk
Originally Posted by StuartandKevin
Cancel booking is the only option and maybe wait until 2023
It is now clear that McGowan has no plan whatsoever and takes a lot of pleasure in keeping the state locked up. A promise is no longer a promise. Does he not realise that mental health presentations to doctors and at hospitals are going to increase even more now, I will be one of them after having to cancel booking to see daughter who have seen for over two years…thank you McGowan
JNN
JNN
Member since 14 Jan 2022
Total posts 10
Originally Posted by KW72
No point planning any travel to WA whilst the fascist dictator is in charge. Which could be indefinite given WA is now a one party state.
KW72 Banned
KW72 Banned
Member since 17 Jun 2020
Total posts 66
Originally Posted by JNN
Originally Posted by KW72
No point planning any travel to WA whilst the fascist dictator is in charge. Which could be indefinite given WA is now a one party state.
Montparnasse
Montparnasse
Member since 16 Nov 2021
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Pretty sure its him. All fascists have 75% or more approval!
Richard W
Richard W
Singapore Airlines - KrisFlyer
Member since 12 Apr 2017
Total posts 88
Originally Posted by patrickk
Originally Posted by StuartandKevin
Cancel booking is the only option and maybe wait until 2023
It is now clear that McGowan has no plan whatsoever and takes a lot of pleasure in keeping the state locked up. A promise is no longer a promise. Does he not realise that mental health presentations to doctors and at hospitals are going to increase even more now, I will be one of them after having to cancel booking to see daughter who have seen for over two years…thank you McGowan