Can you buy, sell or transfer Qantas Points?
Qantas is cracking down on illegal buying & selling of frequent flyer points: here’s what you need to know.
Over 16 million people are members of the Qantas Frequent Flyer program, and the airline estimates that hundreds of billions of Qantas Points are in circulation.
That’s why Qantas Points are often considered Australia’s de facto second currency, and why there’s always strong interest in buying, selling and transferring Qantas Points.
Can you buy, sell or transfer Qantas Points?
In short:
- you can buy points, but only from Qantas
- you can’t sell Qantas Points to anyone
- you can transfer Qantas Points only to family members
Break those rules and you could lose all your Qantas Points and see your Qantas Frequent Flyer account shut down.
For that reason, be wary of anyone – from individuals advertising on eBay or Gumtree to ‘mileage brokers’ on Facebook – offering to buy or sell Qantas Points.
Qantas cracks down on illegal buying & selling of points
Qantas has a track record of cracking down on people who buy and sell Qantas Points, usually by attempting to hide them as family transfers.
And while Qantas allows a very broad definition of ‘family members’ – through to nephews, nieces and first cousins – illegal transfers can still register on the radar at Qantas HQ, especially if they involve the same person repeatedly buying or selling Qantas Points.
Qantas can then take swift action by closing the Qantas Frequent Flyer account of both the person selling the points and the person buying them, wiping away all Qantas Points (along with legally-accrued status) in the process.
The airline can even go back through an account’s activity statement to check for previous illegal buying or selling of points, and close accounts involved in those earlier illegal transfers as well.
How much is a Qantas Point worth?
Before you even consider any ‘trade’ in Qantas Points, it’s useful to know what a Qantas Point is actually worth.
The trick is that unlike currency, Qantas Points don’t have a fixed value: the value of Qantas Points typically ranges from less than half a cent to as high as 7c, depending on how they are spent or ‘redeemed’.
But as a yardstick, Qantas sells frequent flyer points (for topping up your account) with anywhere from 1,000 points (for $56) to 150,000 points (for $3,999) – equivalent to a range of between 5.6c and 2.6c, respectively, or an average of about 4c per Qantas Point.
Buying Qantas Points
Buying Qantas Points is a handy way of making up a points shortfall, particularly if you’ve got your eye on booking a seat at low Classic Flight Reward rates or want to upgrade from a paid fare.
The only way to buy Qantas Points is through Qantas itself, with the airline’s Top-up Points program offering “extra Qantas Points that you can purchase instantly.”
You can buy as little as 1,000 Qantas Points or as many as 150,000 Qantas Points, with as many as four purchase transactions allowed per year.
After logging in to your Qantas Frequent Flyer account, hover over the Points dropdown and click Top-up Points, then select the required number of points to see how much they’ll cost.
Qantas applies a sliding scale to the purchase price of these top-up points: 1,000 points sells for $56, but 150,000 points sells for $3,999, so the ‘cost per point’ varies between 2.6 and 5 cents – and obviously, the more points you buy the cheaper they become.
Note that Qantas sometimes runs flash sales discounts of around 20-50% on purchasing these top-up points, which can make these points purchases a better proposition.
As noted earlier, don’t be taken in by people or businesses offering to sell Qantas Points.
If Qantas closes your account due to that fraudulent activity you’ll not only lose the money spent purchasing those points, you’ll stand to lose all of your legitimately-earned Qantas Points should the airline close your account.
But there is an alternative to buying points from Qantas.
With a little forward planning you could get the points needed via a purchase from the online Qantas Wine store for less money than Qantas sells its own points, which almost makes the wine a delightful bonus!
Watch for special deals at the Qantas Wine store where you earn bonus Qantas Points, either on a per-case basis, for mixed dozens, or site-wide ‘double points’ or ‘triple points’ sales.
Just be aware that points from Qantas Wine purchases take up to six weeks to appear in your account, so it’s not an option for when you need those extra points in a hurry.
Selling Qantas Points
The flipside to buying Qantas Points is of course selling Qantas Points.
After all, if people are wanting to buy Qantas Points – either to top-up or turbocharge their account balance – because they can’t earn enough points through flying or purchases, then there’s a market for people keen to sell excess points, right? It’s simply supply and demand.
Not so: selling Qantas Points is explicitly forbidden by Qantas as “unacceptable conduct” (as is “assigning, transferring or acquiring or offering to sell, assign, transfer or acquire” Qantas Points, outside of family transfers).
And as mentioned earlier, parties involved in selling Qantas Points – along with those who’ve purchased points from them – can have their Qantas Frequent Flyer account suspended or terminated.
Transferring Qantas Points
The only legitimate way to send Qantas Points to somebody isn’t to sell them – it’s by using the Qantas Family Transfer facility.
As the name indicates, this is for transferring Qantas Points between family members, rather than anybody and everybody.
So who counts as a family member?
The list is actually quite broad and includes your parents, children and siblings, in-laws, aunts and uncles, nephews and nieces, even first cousins.
You just need to specify the nature of your relationship to the person receiving the points, and the onus is on you to be able to prove that relationship if called upon by Qantas (so be careful about using or rather abusing the Family Transfer system as a backdoor means of selling points!).
To make a transfer, log into your account, hover over the Points dropdown and select Family transfers.
From there it’s a simple matter of specifying the number of points you’d like to transfer, entering the relationship’s name and Qantas Frequent Flyer number, and specifying their relationship to you.
Transferring Qantas Business Rewards points
There’s one more way to share Qantas Points around, and it’s both little-known and far more flexible than anything else Qantas offers.
Points earned through the Qantas Business Rewards program can be transferred to any other Qantas frequent flyer. They don’t need to have any relationship to your business (they don’t have to be an employee, contractor or client, for example), nor do they need to have any family relationship to you personally.
As Qantas puts it: “Points can be transferred to anyone - work colleagues, family or friends - with an individual Qantas Frequent Flyer account.”
What’s more, apart from a minimum transfer amount of 3,000 Qantas Points, you can transfer as many points as you like and as often as you like, without limit.
You’ll find the Transfer Points option available from the main menu of your Qantas Business Rewards account page.
21 Jul 2021
Total posts 4
As a side note, worth mentioning that QBR points can be transferred to anyone (ie non family members)
24 Aug 2011
Total posts 1208
Given how hard reasonable redemptions are to get these days (following Classic Plus introduction) and the ridiculous price Qantas charge for them, you'd be mad to buy points anymore.
QFF
12 Apr 2013
Total posts 1560
You should be mad if you going to buy those points to "stock up" - it is only make sense if you have booking in mind and it is available and you need few points to be able to book. And even then you should be very careful because booking may disappears in split second. In short - buying points is almost useless.
09 Feb 2021
Total posts 15
"The onus is on you to be able to prove that relationship if called upon by Qantas"
OK, so how are we meant to do this? DNA tests? Ancestry.com?
It may be possible to demonstrate the relationship between parents/children, but no document exists that proves that my first cousin is genuinely my first cousin.
The issue here is that Qantas has an unenforceable requirement. They should either restrict transfers to members of the same household, or waive the restrictions altogether.
10 Sep 2018
Total posts 9
Laughable that anyone would buy Qantas points (unless you needed to make up a tiny shortfall). Right now you can buy Hawaiian miles for 2c and transfer them to Alaskan to use for one world flights. 40k miles for prem economy to Asia. Or 60k in biz. Alternatively 2c to buy lifemiles and they charge 40k for biz to Asia (eg Thai airways or ANA). I’ve flown a fair few times to Japan for $1600 return in business using this method
How much does Qantas charge for a biz class flight to Asia in miles??
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