Qantas continues rejig of how you'll earn frequent flyer points

There's a bit of wanting their caking and eating it too about the CX arrangement. 

1) If you're travelling to Europe, you must use QF or EK.

2) If you're travelling to HKG, you must use QF.

3) If you're already in HK and want to go to London, then that's ok, you can use CX. 

So Qantas, you'll give me Status Credits on CX when it suits you, but given they offer 5 services between Sydney and Hong Kong daily, compared to your 8 a week, I get punished for not using QF. 

Seems like it's probably better to funnel miles into Aadvantage for partner international flights. You need less miles for flight redemptions with that program and the miles earned are much more generous which is based on distance.

QF points are better earned through other means e.g. credit cards rather than flights and QF domestic flights. They require more points for redemptions anyway.

I do have to wonder if the people at QFFF understand what they are doing.

Now that I have LTG on QF (as of yesterday), I'll have to look at the program shift I'd been thinking about since the "simpler and fairer" was first announced. I had been looking at CX MPC, but the recently anounnced changes there make it a no go as well.

I'm going through the earning tables and it looks like there will be some sectors that lose out, but I also think there are going to be quite a few sweet spots that we'll be able to explore and exploit over time.

Seems pretty fair to me for status points , in fact I think you could call it an actual enhancement? 

Fly with Qantas  = take large pile of status credits

Choose Oneworld carrier on Qantas route = take a small pile of status credits

Qantas don't fly that route  = still take decent pile of status credits

Flying QR in February from Asia to the Middle East on a Business Class "I" fare. The table is now showing this as being a "Flexible Economy" fare type for the purposes of earning status credits and points. Surely this is a mistake? Otherwise I'm taking a huge hit whilst traveling in a premium cabin on a route that Qantas doesn't serve. Appreciate anyone's thoughts 

If Qantas offered international flights out of Perth I'd accept these changes but when we have no choice but to fly Emirates (or another airline) these sorts of changes are really galling. 

What is QANTAS doing?

QF had a premium position in the marketplace. Generally those who fly QF do not make their decision based on price, but rather based on service. As a result, their QFF members have invested in a loyalty relationship. QF has trashed all this. The QFF is the great value in QF and tinkering and making it harder to earn status or QFF points only makes QFF members question QF's commitment to the relationship.

Virgin entered the market competing on price and instead of allowing Virgin to have the lower value flyer, QANTAS met them on the price battlefield instead of Service. As a result, Virgin is slowly beating them and have increased their market share to enter the premium service market.

QANTAS must go back to its loyal customers and reassure them the relationship is based on service and valuing them as a flyer. If QF doesn't value my Platinum Status, there is nothing stopping me taking my points and status to Virgin and spending my $30-$50k per annum with them. 

Doesn't matter how much fuel subsidy you have, if you lose Platinum Members you lose revenue.

Hear we go again more changes once again to the Qantas FF program, it changes like Melbourn's wether.........

I fly business class and am about to book a round the world trip using one world but on the last leg from London to Brisbane I would prefer to fly Catyhay Pacific to HK and then to Brisbane because it leaves London earlier. My last flight out of London was delayed and consequently I missed the Emirates flight to Brisbane and had to go on Qantas through Sydney. I had been sitting at Heathrow since 12.30pm for a scheduled flight at 21.25pm that finally left at 23.30pm.  I do not want a repeat scenario.  Which flights will have reduced status credits? I will travel to America, then  Europe and home.

Qantas - The Spirit of Sydney, and sometimes Melbourne and Brisbane, if you're willing to go via Sydney nearly everytime.

Qantas are making it harder for the average flyer to gain status. I moved to Virgin about a year ago and would not go back. Most of my colleagues have done the same. where you would just miss a silver or gold status with Qantas you make it with Virgin.

Ansolutely had enough of Qantas even as a Gold member and near life time Silver. Based in Perth we are treated as second class citizens when it comes  to international flying. Just had to to do 2 Emirates flights and 1 Malaysia for the total sum of 600miles and not a single status. Even though I could not book the flights thru Qantas out of Perth.

The Red Roo really exploits its dominant domestic market position to force inconventient  choices for international travel. QF internation product is VERY limited and generally inferior to the competition, especially CX J class! yet they screw down harder and harder. 

I'm over QF, I support Virgin where ever I can now. Great domestic product and good international partner options and a much fairer FF program. 

QF would bew a better airline if it had more competition. Let Singapore fly the Pacific route.

Qanats are forever tinkering with the FF programme to make is simpler and fairer which is absolute BS. They must employ mathematicians to create the formulas to ensure that you always just miss a status upgrade or bonus by 10 points. Im life gold current platinum in Perth and its nearly impossible short of flying Biz class everywhere to maintain Plat. I was Plat One but slipped back due to the last lot of changes to status by being forced to fly EK, MH and CX out of Perth because there's no bloody QF flights. Listen up Qantas to your loyal FF's not to the beancounters in the back office.

Qantas are determined to trash the last residual bit of loyalty I had for them. Frankly, I do business in Asia and Europe. I DO NOT LIKE or WANT to fly through the middle east. Qantas offer virtually no service options into Asia. The QF J projuct is significantly inferior to SQ or CX. So this is the last straw. FF points and status are no longer a driver for my decisions, I will buy the most suitable flight at the best value price point. This will be rarely QF, CX will now get most of my spend.

QF just push and push, but don't deliver, the international product is not good enough, the domest product only has frequency, Virgin offers a better onboard product.