I'm planning on traveling to Canada later this year with a 6 month old. I was hoping to purchase a premium economy seat with Qantas and use points to upgrade to business. I usually travel internationally in business with work but have never attempted an upgrade for my own travel before. I'm a platinum FF but does anyone know if having an infant will mean I get overlooked for an upgrade? Any other points upgrade tips would be great too (but I have read the business upgrade guide). Thanks all.
Sorry to be harsh, but… As George Orwell wrote in “Animal Farm” : "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others". I mean that I understand that people with babies has the same or at some extend even more rights then people without them, but 30 or so passengers paid to sit in business for better comfort, not to listen to crying baby all 14 hours flight. Also I understand that you do not even give a damn about them comparing to your own baby. And you have all rights to do so and my full support in this particular matter, i.e. carrying for your baby more then for a stranger. So I reckon that Qantas will put you at the bottom of the list and I hope that you will be rejected. Sorry once again.
It is. But try to think if you will fly next seat and baby will cry all flight. Simply because air pressure disturbing him/her and nothing can be done about that. They (people with babies) have to fly somehow, but why I have to pay for this???
it's PUBLIC transport...easy solution to YOUR problem...whenever you are about to book a flight..ring up the airline..ask them if there are any babies/children on that flight, and if yes, YOU change your flight...OR fly PRIVATE so your 'needs' are met.
I understand where you are coming from, that's why I always book our seats away from the bassinet areas and hope for the best. But, I also cope when I do I have a crying baby nearby by watching a movie with the volume a little louder or earplugs when I sleep.
It's just a part of the world we live in and I genuinely feel for the parents who are attempting to calm their crying children.
Luckily I never flew when my kids were little, I fly with them now but they are in their 20's!
You could say "business class passengers have paid more, they shouldn't have to sit near crying babies", but that's about as good an argument as "economy class passenges are already suffering enough from being in economy, they shouldn't have to sit next to crying babies".
Not that I'd buy the latter idea, either, my point is that crying babies, like rain on your wedding day and hemmorhoids, are just some of those things in life that we can't buy our way out of.
I would agree with you when it comes to babies of my family and my friends and disagree otherwise. I mean that I am happy to pay by my comfort and my time (and my money for this merit) to people whom I know. But why on the Earth I have to be extra compassion to some stranger baby that ruin my journey that I paid so much for be able to do it in relatively less discomfort? Why I have to think after people with babies while they obviously do not even give a damn about me? If you honestly think otherwise, I can give you my paypall for donation – I recently purchase new car and like to pay it off quicker, so I expect everyone compassion. Or I can ask you this: how on the Earth you can fly business when you can fly in economy and donate difference to dying kids in Africa? Does your small few-hours inconvenience worth as much as dozens of lives? Yes, it exactly like that - $5000 or so can save plenty of lives in poor country. So please stop telling me that I am heartless pretending that you are. I just telling you the truth while you prefer do not know about it for your own convenience. It is looks like in our common Animal Farm in the sky each for its own.
I am assuming you regulary fly economy and donate the difference between the J & Y fare to the dying kids in Africa?
That's pretty awesome! :-p
Last time I flew J, I was seated in the bassinet seat. I got a tap on the shoulder from the crew who asked me if I could swap seats with the lady a few rows back who had a baby. I (of course) said yes! Then the guy next to me says "I was really hoping you'd say no"
Such is life! You win some, you lose some! If you are flying a carrier that doesn't ban babies in J, then you have to suck it up!
You were a baby once too and I bet you annoyed everyone around you (except of course you're family and friends).
I never say or even pretend that I did or even thought to do. What I saying though why I have to be more compassion to someone who can afford flying business with baby and be no so compassion to poor souls that have nothing to eat? Just because one sits next to you while you cannot see others? Why one protests again cruel to animals when see how dogs treated in China and poison mice in own house or squash ants and spiders? This kind of things have very specific definition – bigotry. YMMV. Cheers.
It was not about comparing baby with animal it was about relativity of the problem depending from point of view. Saying that I like to add that some toddlers significantly worse then any animals, though it is obviously not their own fault, but their parents. Have you been in flight when 8 y.o. kicking your seat from back in non-stop regime during all 9 hr of flight? Make your own judgment.
milsgough
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Business upgrade with an infant?
I'm planning on traveling to Canada later this year with a 6 month old. I was hoping to purchase a premium economy seat with Qantas and use points to upgrade to business. I usually travel internationally in business with work but have never attempted an upgrade for my own travel before. I'm a platinum FF but does anyone know if having an infant will mean I get overlooked for an upgrade? Any other points upgrade tips would be great too (but I have read the business upgrade guide). Thanks all.
Serg
Serg
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Sorry to be harsh, but…
As George Orwell wrote in “Animal Farm” : "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others". I mean that I understand that people with babies has the same or at some extend even more rights then people without them, but 30 or so passengers paid to sit in business for better comfort, not to listen to crying baby all 14 hours flight. Also I understand that you do not even give a damn about them comparing to your own baby. And you have all rights to do so and my full support in this particular matter, i.e. carrying for your baby more then for a stranger. So I reckon that Qantas will put you at the bottom of the list and I hope that you will be rejected.
Sorry once again.
Chrisor
Chrisor
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You are correct Serg, it is a little bit harsh!
Serg
Serg
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It is. But try to think if you will fly next seat and baby will cry all flight. Simply because air pressure disturbing him/her and nothing can be done about that. They (people with babies) have to fly somehow, but why I have to pay for this???
undertheradar Banned
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it's PUBLIC transport...easy solution to YOUR problem...whenever you are about to book a flight..ring up the airline..ask them if there are any babies/children on that flight, and if yes, YOU change your flight...OR fly PRIVATE so your 'needs' are met.
thats my judgement
Serg
Serg
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I do not have any problem, my friend. However you seem to have - why else crying so loud?
Chrisor
Chrisor
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I understand where you are coming from, that's why I always book our seats away from the bassinet areas and hope for the best. But, I also cope when I do I have a crying baby nearby by watching a movie with the volume a little louder or earplugs when I sleep.
It's just a part of the world we live in and I genuinely feel for the parents who are attempting to calm their crying children.
Luckily I never flew when my kids were little, I fly with them now but they are in their 20's!
Hugo
Hugo
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You could say "business class passengers have paid more, they shouldn't have to sit near crying babies", but that's about as good an argument as "economy class passenges are already suffering enough from being in economy, they shouldn't have to sit next to crying babies".
Not that I'd buy the latter idea, either, my point is that crying babies, like rain on your wedding day and hemmorhoids, are just some of those things in life that we can't buy our way out of.
Serg
Serg
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I would agree with you when it comes to babies of my family and my friends and disagree otherwise. I mean that I am happy to pay by my comfort and my time (and my money for this merit) to people whom I know. But why on the Earth I have to be extra compassion to some stranger baby that ruin my journey that I paid so much for be able to do it in relatively less discomfort? Why I have to think after people with babies while they obviously do not even give a damn about me? If you honestly think otherwise, I can give you my paypall for donation – I recently purchase new car and like to pay it off quicker, so I expect everyone compassion. Or I can ask you this: how on the Earth you can fly business when you can fly in economy and donate difference to dying kids in Africa? Does your small few-hours inconvenience worth as much as dozens of lives? Yes, it exactly like that - $5000 or so can save plenty of lives in poor country. So please stop telling me that I am heartless pretending that you are. I just telling you the truth while you prefer do not know about it for your own convenience. It is looks like in our common Animal Farm in the sky each for its own.
Hugo
Hugo
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Look, I don't want to question the rightness of your ego orientation, but I don't think it's relevant here anyway.
Nobody's asking you to be "extra compassion" (sic) to babies, you don't have to do anything at all, except tolerate the status quo.
If you're important enough that you shouldn't be disturbed by crying babies, you're important enough to fly in a private jet.
hutch
hutch
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I am assuming you regulary fly economy and donate the difference between the J & Y fare to the dying kids in Africa?
That's pretty awesome! :-p
Last time I flew J, I was seated in the bassinet seat. I got a tap on the shoulder from the crew who asked me if I could swap seats with the lady a few rows back who had a baby. I (of course) said yes! Then the guy next to me says "I was really hoping you'd say no"
Such is life! You win some, you lose some! If you are flying a carrier that doesn't ban babies in J, then you have to suck it up!
You were a baby once too and I bet you annoyed everyone around you (except of course you're family and friends).
Serg
Serg
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Hutch,
I never say or even pretend that I did or even thought to do. What I saying though why I have to be more compassion to someone who can afford flying business with baby and be no so compassion to poor souls that have nothing to eat? Just because one sits next to you while you cannot see others? Why one protests again cruel to animals when see how dogs treated in China and poison mice in own house or squash ants and spiders? This kind of things have very specific definition – bigotry. YMMV. Cheers.
hutch
hutch
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Not sure I agree with your definition of bigotry. Then again not sure I understand your argument completely.
Anyways, happy flying :-)
drsimon50
drsimon50
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thats rather inappropriate to compare a baby to an animal!
Serg
Serg
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It was not about comparing baby with animal it was about relativity of the problem depending from point of view. Saying that I like to add that some toddlers significantly worse then any animals, though it is obviously not their own fault, but their parents. Have you been in flight when 8 y.o. kicking your seat from back in non-stop regime during all 9 hr of flight? Make your own judgment.