LOL! So you imply that I behave like a baby when I cannot adore that 8 y.o. stranger animal that kicks my seat during all flight? So basically his parent that sits next to him is sitting in better comfort then you because of his devil and you should be enormously happy and adore him? And at the end of the fly you may even wish ask their address to send him nice Christmas gift? I wish you in such situation and good luck!
Dude. I disagree with Serg but your comment is too funny. Animal Farm is an anthropomorphic allegory. Read the book! Or read about the book on wikipedia before posting such humourous comments.
I flew Singapore Airlines Businsss from singapore to London and their was a toddler about 3 and he was adorable! He didn't make a noise the whole flight and walked over to me, I think that made the flight more amazing! :)
Yep this is a very common thing I see on the asian carriers, it's because asian families have mastered the art of parenting, unlike a lot bogans from our country unfortuantely that drag kids around on airlines and seem content to sit on their asses and make no effort to at least placate the child in any way.
I wonder if most of the frequent travellers on here would be so defensive of travellers with children in J if they were actually paying for their travel and it not being on the company expense account, somehow I think not.
If there is a points seat available then your plantium status is the best hope you can get. A friend recently travelled and was upgraded with two children (one over two so own seat and one infant) - no FF status just luck.
If your company has an account manager with Qantas that may be an option. I have done that and whilst they were not able to upgrade me due to my original flight being purchased on pointst, they did move me to an exit row seat and listed me as VIP - I was very well looked after! :)
They did tell me that my best option would have been to have purchased an economy ticket and then asked to be upgraded wtih the points. I was Gold status then so you have a better option.
Obviously you should be well prepared for your baby, and try to minimse disruption to other pax, but please ignore those who seem to think business class is their own private club. It is simply a less uncomfortable form of air travel.
upgraded with BA to business with my 12 month old when I helped with an on board medical emergency, they even gave her a seat to herself despite being booked for a bassinet. Otherwis no joy on upgrades with my kids. Now pay J for the family, much to the chagrin of my fellow travellers, and I have to say frequently on QF the visible displeasure of the crew!
I never say or even pretend that I did or even thought to do. What I saying though why I have to be more compassion to someone who can afford flying business with baby and be no so compassion to poor souls that have nothing to eat? Just because one sits next to you while you cannot see others? Why one protests again cruel to animals when see how dogs treated in China and poison mice in own house or squash ants and spiders? This kind of things have very specific definition – bigotry. YMMV. Cheers.
Whenever I'm in the presence of an annoying child or crying baby, it comforts me to think that he/she will grow up to pay my pension and the cost of my future medical bills.
If there was ever justice in socialism it would be that!
Being civil cuts both ways. Perhaps if both sides got off their high horses and stop feeling so entitled...A gesture like the one below would not go amiss (Taken from the Age website).
TRB, no-one saying to be uncivil. But while I not going to make verbal fight or even say anything to them (parents with babies) I would not make happy face that I was dreaming whole month before flight to adore their crying babies during 10 hours flight. Moreover I do expect them (parents with babies) to understand that they create huge nuisance for everybody around and behave accordingly. Regardless of traveling class. Unfortunately seldom happens. It is really should be “baby corner” (or subcabin) on airplane with cheaper rate – thus parents with babies would be compensated and those who like to save few bucks must not complain because they agree to be seated among crying babies and kicking toddlers :-)))))) May be other way around – separate cabin with slightly elevated rates that guarantee that there will be no kids. It been discussed here before. Point of conflict here is fairly simple and like everywhere else – there is no choice.
Unfortunately upfront apology will not save my flight, but as very least acknowledged that they understand that they huge nuisance for everyone. And once again for those who cannot get my point – even if I may feel sorry for poor parents, I still cannot get why I have to be punished when I did nothing wrong to anyone and to them in particular.
undertheradar Banned
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so whose 'fault' is it when adults behave like babies/children... still blame the parents!!
i'd prefer a baby 'being a baby' over any adult that behaves like a baby/child....you can reason more with a baby/child..lol
Serg
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LOL! So you imply that I behave like a baby when I cannot adore that 8 y.o. stranger animal that kicks my seat during all flight? So basically his parent that sits next to him is sitting in better comfort then you because of his devil and you should be enormously happy and adore him? And at the end of the fly you may even wish ask their address to send him nice Christmas gift? I wish you in such situation and good luck!
spinoza
spinoza
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Dude. I disagree with Serg but your comment is too funny. Animal Farm is an anthropomorphic allegory. Read the book! Or read about the book on wikipedia before posting such humourous comments.
drsimon50
drsimon50
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and as a platinum flyer myself i have earnt the right to upgrade as and when i want - the same as any other person
djcz
djcz
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I flew Singapore Airlines Businsss from singapore to London and their was a toddler about 3 and he was adorable! He didn't make a noise the whole flight and walked over to me, I think that made the flight more amazing! :)
Doubleplatinum Banned
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Yep this is a very common thing I see on the asian carriers, it's because asian families have mastered the art of parenting, unlike a lot bogans from our country unfortuantely that drag kids around on airlines and seem content to sit on their asses and make no effort to at least placate the child in any way.
I wonder if most of the frequent travellers on here would be so defensive of travellers with children in J if they were actually paying for their travel and it not being on the company expense account, somehow I think not.
Jules
Jules
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If there is a points seat available then your plantium status is the best hope you can get. A friend recently travelled and was upgraded with two children (one over two so own seat and one infant) - no FF status just luck.
If your company has an account manager with Qantas that may be an option. I have done that and whilst they were not able to upgrade me due to my original flight being purchased on pointst, they did move me to an exit row seat and listed me as VIP - I was very well looked after! :)
They did tell me that my best option would have been to have purchased an economy ticket and then asked to be upgraded wtih the points. I was Gold status then so you have a better option.
Camohe
Camohe
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I hope the OP gets the upgrade.
Obviously you should be well prepared for your baby, and try to minimse disruption to other pax, but please ignore those who seem to think business class is their own private club. It is simply a less uncomfortable form of air travel.
obanpointer
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upgraded with BA to business with my 12 month old when I helped with an on board medical emergency, they even gave her a seat to herself despite being booked for a bassinet. Otherwis no joy on upgrades with my kids. Now pay J for the family, much to the chagrin of my fellow travellers, and I have to say frequently on QF the visible displeasure of the crew!
Serg
Serg
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Hutch,
I never say or even pretend that I did or even thought to do. What I saying though why I have to be more compassion to someone who can afford flying business with baby and be no so compassion to poor souls that have nothing to eat? Just because one sits next to you while you cannot see others? Why one protests again cruel to animals when see how dogs treated in China and poison mice in own house or squash ants and spiders? This kind of things have very specific definition – bigotry. YMMV. Cheers.
TheRealBabushka
TheRealBabushka
Member since 21 Apr 2012
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Whenever I'm in the presence of an annoying child or crying baby, it comforts me to think that he/she will grow up to pay my pension and the cost of my future medical bills.
If there was ever justice in socialism it would be that!
airADL
airADL
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Member since 25 Mar 2014
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i thought the noise cancelling headphones protected the "protected" species in J class....
ear plugs $1.00.....................
spinoza
spinoza
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They're actually free on the plane. Even in economy class.
TheRealBabushka
TheRealBabushka
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Being civil cuts both ways. Perhaps if both sides got off their high horses and stop feeling so entitled...A gesture like the one below would not go amiss (Taken from the Age website).
Serg
Serg
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TRB, no-one saying to be uncivil. But while I not going to make verbal fight or even say anything to them (parents with babies) I would not make happy face that I was dreaming whole month before flight to adore their crying babies during 10 hours flight. Moreover I do expect them (parents with babies) to understand that they create huge nuisance for everybody around and behave accordingly. Regardless of traveling class. Unfortunately seldom happens. It is really should be “baby corner” (or subcabin) on airplane with cheaper rate – thus parents with babies would be compensated and those who like to save few bucks must not complain because they agree to be seated among crying babies and kicking toddlers :-)))))) May be other way around – separate cabin with slightly elevated rates that guarantee that there will be no kids. It been discussed here before. Point of conflict here is fairly simple and like everywhere else – there is no choice.
Unfortunately upfront apology will not save my flight, but as very least acknowledged that they understand that they huge nuisance for everyone. And once again for those who cannot get my point – even if I may feel sorry for poor parents, I still cannot get why I have to be punished when I did nothing wrong to anyone and to them in particular.