I travel a lot to both Manaila and Jakarta, and most of the time it's in Y. I flew home Wednesday night on QF42 from Jakarta and noticed that every crew member was male and at least 55. They were like robots, no personality and just meandered through the meal service and wouldn't know a smile if it slapped them in the face.
I have noticed this is a continued trend, particularly on these routes. You would think Qantas would mix it up a bit, but no it's Dad's Army all the way!
I travel a lot to both Manaila and Jakarta, and most of the time it's in Y. I flew home Wednesday night on QF42 from Jakarta and noticed that every crew member was male and at least 55. They were like robots, no personality and just meandered through the meal service and wouldn't know a smile if it slapped them in the face.
I have noticed this is a continued trend, particularly on these routes. You would think Qantas would mix it up a bit, but no it's Dad's Army all the way!
Why do you think I've switched to Cathay when flying to MNL?
Back in the day, the Manila run used to be filled with dirty old men going for a 'good' time. It used to get quite unruly. It was a run when they conveniently ran out of alcohol an hour into the flight. Qantas must have left the same flight crew assigned permanently. 🚬
I travel a lot to both Manaila and Jakarta, and most of the time it's in Y. I flew home Wednesday night on QF42 from Jakarta and noticed that every crew member was male and at least 55. They were like robots, no personality and just meandered through the meal service and wouldn't know a smile if it slapped them in the face.
I have noticed this is a continued trend, particularly on these routes. You would think Qantas would mix it up a bit, but no it's Dad's Army all the way!
Why do you think I've switched to Cathay when flying to MNL?
I was thinking of doing the same, particularly that as WP I seem to get op ups to J with CX....yet get zero with QF. And it means I can great lounges all the way.
Is the issue their age or that their customer service skills are not up to scratch? I would've thought you could have staff with a sub-par work attitude at any age.
I've noticed that Jakarta does have a disproportionate number of older male crew. Though never had an issue with them what so ever, and always been very friendly and top notch. And flying the route so much they now starting to remember me. I mostly fly J but occastionaly Y(one route where pick the right day to fly and points upgrade is an almost certainty).
I travel a lot to both Manaila and Jakarta, and most of the time it's in Y. I flew home Wednesday night on QF42 from Jakarta and noticed that every crew member was male and at least 55. They were like robots, no personality and just meandered through the meal service and wouldn't know a smile if it slapped them in the face.
I have noticed this is a continued trend, particularly on these routes. You would think Qantas would mix it up a bit, but no it's Dad's Army all the way!
Why do you think I've switched to Cathay when flying to MNL?
I was thinking of doing the same, particularly that as WP I seem to get op ups to J with CX....yet get zero with QF. And it means I can great lounges all the way.
CX is awfully good with upgrades for Emeralds. They're my go to airline for Asia. Frequency, breadth and service. Trifecta!
Of course you poor sods with QFF get peanuts by way of SC when flying other than with QF...
QF crew bid for routes; and it works on seniority, so the more senior crew can pretty much get what they want. It sounds like CGK is attractive to more senior crew, probably because it means a shorter time away from home.
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russell
russell
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I travel a lot to both Manaila and Jakarta, and most of the time it's in Y. I flew home Wednesday night on QF42 from Jakarta and noticed that every crew member was male and at least 55. They were like robots, no personality and just meandered through the meal service and wouldn't know a smile if it slapped them in the face.
TheRealBabushka
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Viscount2
Viscount2
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Back in the day, the Manila run used to be filled with dirty old men going for a 'good' time. It used to get quite unruly. It was a run when they conveniently ran out of alcohol an hour into the flight. Qantas must have left the same flight crew assigned permanently. 🚬
russell
russell
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I was thinking of doing the same, particularly that as WP I seem to get op ups to J with CX....yet get zero with QF. And it means I can great lounges all the way.
staminaman62
staminaman62
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Is the issue their age or that their customer service skills are not up to scratch? I would've thought you could have staff with a sub-par work attitude at any age.
AJW
AJW
Member since 16 Nov 2011
Total posts 55
I've noticed that Jakarta does have a disproportionate number of older male crew. Though never had an issue with them what so ever, and always been very friendly and top notch. And flying the route so much they now starting to remember me. I mostly fly J but occastionaly Y(one route where pick the right day to fly and points upgrade is an almost certainty).
TheRealBabushka
TheRealBabushka
Member since 21 Apr 2012
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I was thinking of doing the same, particularly that as WP I seem to get op ups to J with CX....yet get zero with QF. And it means I can great lounges all the way.
CX is awfully good with upgrades for Emeralds. They're my go to airline for Asia. Frequency, breadth and service. Trifecta!
Of course you poor sods with QFF get peanuts by way of SC when flying other than with QF...
rufusfly
rufusfly
Member since 13 May 2016
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A lot of us poor sods Like to fly QF for the service you get in the air and on the ground
TheRealBabushka
TheRealBabushka
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Excellent! We need Qantas to have a reason to operate those fantastic First Class lounges in SYD and MEL!
rufusfly
rufusfly
Member since 13 May 2016
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Excellent! We need Qantas to have a reason to operate those fantastic First Class lounges in SYD and MEL!
rufusfly
rufusfly
Member since 13 May 2016
Total posts 54
[QUOTE=13579;36299]
Excellent! We need Qantas to have a reason to operate those fantastic First Class lounges in SYD and MEL!
[Don't forget the chairman lounge /QUOTE]
John Phelan
John Phelan
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QF crew bid for routes; and it works on seniority, so the more senior crew can pretty much get what they want. It sounds like CGK is attractive to more senior crew, probably because it means a shorter time away from home.