I'm not sure this is the place to post this, but I wanted to check what the general view of the ausbt readership may be of a situation I found myself in earlier today. For various reasons I found myself having to use one of the PC's in the business centre in the Hotel where I am staying. Had settled in for a couple of hours work (there were a few other people there as well) when an individual came in and proceeded to set up his laptop (this was in a communal work area) and start setting up a teleconference, which he was running, without using any headphones, so the whole room had the benefit of this. There was much looking at each other amongst others in the room as he proceeded to start this at full volume. At this stage the desk at the business centre where the staff member would usually sit was unattended, so I took it upon myself to politely lean over tooth's individual and ask if he minded at the minimum using headphones as the rest of the room probably didn't want to hear his telecon. Well to put it mildly he had a major sense of humour failure. Abusive language, storming out of the room. He found a vacant boardroom to use for his call, but still found time as he left an hour later to stick his head back in and let off another volley of abuse. Now let me stress here, I was perfectly polite, I was very aware of others in the room (I may well have been more 'direct' if I had been the only other person) so his reaction was not a response to me being either rude or abusive. So. Was I reasonable or not? What should I have done in that situation?
Should have recorded him being on teleconference. Determine who is employer is. Record his volley of abuse. Send videos to employer. If sensitive information was discussed on teleconference, let his employer know what you heard.
I haven't had to do this more than a couple of times over the last few years but I just start mirroring what they're saying. That usually gives them the hint they're being too loud.
Yes you were being perfectly reasonable. I have experienced the same thing recently. I can't believe how some people think that we want to hear their business conversations!!
It is completely reasonable to remind said person of their manners. I would've given some hints like pretending to take a phone call whilst mentioning how loud it is or something but I would've done similar without a doubt.
Completely reasonable - I am more than over the speakers-full-blast, no-headphones behaviour. It’s not considerate of others, and not very strategic if a business conversation.
Experienced an individual in an Emirates lounge conducting a speakers-at-max skype call with small children…loud and distorted, and in full bogan dialect if you know what I mean. Even served himself at the breakfast bar with laptop, while carrying on the call. After about half an hour of incessant squarking I quietly and politely asked him if he wouldn’t mind using headphones, and got a very sharp “oh f**k off you old c**t”. Fully heard by his children. But he did put his headphones on.
I don't understand how anyone can think that is appropriate? It is the same as people who feel it is appropriate to talk on a mobile phone with the speaker on. It is just plain rude. There is no wriggle room.
How can any logical person want everyone to hear and see bad manners. This type of behavior is simply First World Bad Behavior. The same sort of rubbish that occupies the first 5 minutes of every evenings news bulletin.
It’s like at a restaurant when someone insists on watching a video with audio up loud. Happened to us recently at the Florentino cellar bar in Melbourne. It’s a small space, the guy was at the next table, I asked politely if he could turn it down. You should have seen the reaction.
The audacity of some people, no respect for others. I was very blunt with a guy at the gym who decided to make a face-time call in the locker room. He blew up back at me for interrupting his 'important' call. He's no longer a member at that gym.
The age of entitlement - isn't it wonderful! Good on you for saying something
I just experienced a week of it whilst on vacation at a resort in Bali - I started off polite but by the end of it I was losing it. The 20-something yo Chinese on FaceTime on the their mobiles are the worst....doesn't matter what you say, what you gesture or where you are - they just ignore it and continue on at full volume
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Ourmanin
Ourmanin
Singapore Airlines - KrisFlyer
Member since 08 Jun 2018
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I'm not sure this is the place to post this, but I wanted to check what the general view of the ausbt readership may be of a situation I found myself in earlier today. For various reasons I found myself having to use one of the PC's in the business centre in the Hotel where I am staying. Had settled in for a couple of hours work (there were a few other people there as well) when an individual came in and proceeded to set up his laptop (this was in a communal work area) and start setting up a teleconference, which he was running, without using any headphones, so the whole room had the benefit of this. There was much looking at each other amongst others in the room as he proceeded to start this at full volume. At this stage the desk at the business centre where the staff member would usually sit was unattended, so I took it upon myself to politely lean over tooth's individual and ask if he minded at the minimum using headphones as the rest of the room probably didn't want to hear his telecon. Well to put it mildly he had a major sense of humour failure. Abusive language, storming out of the room. He found a vacant boardroom to use for his call, but still found time as he left an hour later to stick his head back in and let off another volley of abuse. Now let me stress here, I was perfectly polite, I was very aware of others in the room (I may well have been more 'direct' if I had been the only other person) so his reaction was not a response to me being either rude or abusive. So. Was I reasonable or not? What should I have done in that situation?
PCHammond
PCHammond
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 24 Aug 2017
Total posts 22
Should have recorded him being on teleconference. Determine who is employer is. Record his volley of abuse. Send videos to employer. If sensitive information was discussed on teleconference, let his employer know what you heard.
sid
sid
Member since 07 Jan 2011
Total posts 208
I haven't had to do this more than a couple of times over the last few years but I just start mirroring what they're saying. That usually gives them the hint they're being too loud.
craigh
craigh
Member since 17 Feb 2017
Total posts 9
Yes you were being perfectly reasonable. I have experienced the same thing recently. I can't believe how some people think that we want to hear their business conversations!!
djtech
djtech
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 02 Sep 2018
Total posts 375
It is completely reasonable to remind said person of their manners. I would've given some hints like pretending to take a phone call whilst mentioning how loud it is or something but I would've done similar without a doubt.
RR
RR
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 17 Aug 2012
Total posts 45
Completely reasonable - I am more than over the speakers-full-blast, no-headphones behaviour. It’s not considerate of others, and not very strategic if a business conversation.
Experienced an individual in an Emirates lounge conducting a speakers-at-max skype call with small children…loud and distorted, and in full bogan dialect if you know what I mean. Even served himself at the breakfast bar with laptop, while carrying on the call. After about half an hour of incessant squarking I quietly and politely asked him if he wouldn’t mind using headphones, and got a very sharp “oh f**k off you old c**t”. Fully heard by his children. But he did put his headphones on.
Timmy22bc
Timmy22bc
Member since 18 Oct 2015
Total posts 16
Some people just want to be seen!
CBRQF
CBRQF
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 28 Jul 2011
Total posts 54
I don't understand how anyone can think that is appropriate? It is the same as people who feel it is appropriate to talk on a mobile phone with the speaker on. It is just plain rude. There is no wriggle room.
Rufus1
Rufus1
Member since 04 Dec 2013
Total posts 70
Of course you're being unreasonable. How else was he to let the entire world know how extremely busy and important he was?
sgb
sgb
Emirates Airlines - Skywards
Member since 30 Nov 2015
Total posts 419
How can any logical person want everyone to hear and see bad manners. This type of behavior is simply First World Bad Behavior. The same sort of rubbish that occupies the first 5 minutes of every evenings news bulletin.
aniljak
aniljak
Member since 15 Sep 2012
Total posts 99
Should have told him you work for a competitor and heard all the conversation. Thank him for revealing so much information!
aggie57
aggie57
QF
Member since 04 Apr 2014
Total posts 136
It’s like at a restaurant when someone insists on watching a video with audio up loud. Happened to us recently at the Florentino cellar bar in Melbourne. It’s a small space, the guy was at the next table, I asked politely if he could turn it down. You should have seen the reaction.
Red Cee
Red Cee
Member since 15 Feb 2018
Total posts 151
You really have to wonder at some people. You were perfectly reasonable.
SYD74
SYD74
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 20 Jul 2013
Total posts 1
The audacity of some people, no respect for others. I was very blunt with a guy at the gym who decided to make a face-time call in the locker room. He blew up back at me for interrupting his 'important' call. He's no longer a member at that gym.
BJ01
BJ01
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
Member since 07 Dec 2015
Total posts 57
The age of entitlement - isn't it wonderful! Good on you for saying something