Though still speculation...what does the Ausbt community think of this? Would this be a useful option for some Ausbt readers? Wondering if availability would be good for award redemptions with QF points?
I am personally planning a trip to West Africa and hoping to give this airline a go!
In that case, wouldn't it be better to redeem for emirates with Qantas points instead of Royal Air Maroc? Unless, you have the angle flat 777 of course.
Whilst this report is speculation and 'an old repeat of a rumour', talk about RAM joining oneworld has been consistent over the years.
Would RAM joining be advantageous to oneworld? Hell yes. It opens up the whole of North Africa for oneworld - an area that has previously been poorly served. RAM also codeshares with existing oneworld carriers such as Qatar, S7 and Iberia. Let's not forget that oneworld looked to Sabena / Brussels Air numerous times to expand into North Africa before Brussels Air was ultimately absorbed by LH.
Would it be valuable for Australians? Depends. Not currently a great deal for direct travel ex Australia (and even via PER to JNB, since Comair is probably a better choice from South Africa to parts of middle Africa). However, for connecting to Africa from major points in Europe, it would provide one stop connections to much of Africa via Casablanca. With QF fishing around Paris and Germany for possible B787 non-stops, RAM could provide more efficient routes to Africa for European travellers on ROW fares where the necessity to backtrack to LHR could be eliminated.
Given RAM's CEO will be in attendance at the oneworld meeting next week, one has to wonder why he would be present, if not for joining purposes? RAM is not currently a oneworld member. The ultimate irony, of course, would be if Qatar (QR) chooses to withdraw from oneworld - but subsequently turns out to be RAM's sponsor carrier into oneworld.
Not particular useful for Australians... Not easy to get a flight to Casablanca. Might change if they flew to Singapore or Hong Kong.
My take on it:
Plenty of potential if going from Southern EU to both USA / Canada or Brazil. Specifically, fares from Morocco or other 'nearby' places such as Portugal / Spain SIGNIFICANTLY better than Iberia / BA / other Transatlantic JV members (AA, Finnair, etc). Hence, not a bad arbitrage opportunity from EU to NA / Brazil
Emirates already serves North Africa quite well. They are more reliable than RAM, and offer a one stop flight from Australia to Casablanca in better aircraft. Unless of course one world benefits are more important.
They are a little bit funky, I would rate RJ and UL better and more consistent, and consistency is not one of either of their strengths!
Having said that they were OK and I would fly them again and if in OW another good way to get SC.
Oh dear Royal Air Maroc is heaps better than RJ or Royal Jordanian especially if flying out of Paris or Madrid to Marrakesh or elsewhere in Morocco. RJ is one of the worst airlines in the Oneworld alliance. The crew is horrendous and the purser just cannot be bothered, food is unpalatable in business class and the entertainment system just downright bad. They have no biz class amenities and no idea of customer service. The only good thing is that they operate Boeing 787 Dreamliners so they are a lot more comfortable but certainly an airline that is to be avoided!
Emirates already serves North Africa quite well. They are more reliable than RAM, and offer a one stop flight from Australia to Casablanca in better aircraft. Unless of course one world benefits are more important.
Emirates serves North and (particularly) West Africa quite poorly.
I fly into Nouakchott regularly and it's usually RAM I go with these days. Getting into Ouagadougou or Niamey or many cities is not really possible on Emirates which only serves major markets.
I've had more reliability issues with Air France than with RAM, in fact RAM is seamless when connecting West Africa to Europe & their short-haul product (both in Y & J) are pretty good.Casablanca is an excellent airport too (by African standards).
silentiger86
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Though still speculation...what does the Ausbt community think of this? Would this be a useful option for some Ausbt readers? Wondering if availability would be good for award redemptions with QF points?
I am personally planning a trip to West Africa and hoping to give this airline a go!
Ross
Ross
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Himeno
Himeno
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Yet another repeat of an old rumour.
adethyasjce
adethyasjce
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Tried to search for a ticket on Royal Air Maroc - website isn't working - got 502 Bad Gateway error!
moa999
moa999
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Plenty of smoke this time.
btaus
btaus
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They fly from Casablanca to Doha, the home of Qatar Airways, is that not easy enough from Australia?
djtech
djtech
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They fly from Casablanca to Doha, the home of Qatar Airways, is that not easy enough from Australia?
In that case, wouldn't it be better to redeem for emirates with Qantas points instead of Royal Air Maroc? Unless, you have the angle flat 777 of course.
ratrace
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Not a very reliable airline.
kimshep
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Whilst this report is speculation and 'an old repeat of a rumour', talk about RAM joining oneworld has been consistent over the years.
Would RAM joining be advantageous to oneworld? Hell yes. It opens up the whole of North Africa for oneworld - an area that has previously been poorly served. RAM also codeshares with existing oneworld carriers such as Qatar, S7 and Iberia. Let's not forget that oneworld looked to Sabena / Brussels Air numerous times to expand into North Africa before Brussels Air was ultimately absorbed by LH.
Would it be valuable for Australians? Depends. Not currently a great deal for direct travel ex Australia (and even via PER to JNB, since Comair is probably a better choice from South Africa to parts of middle Africa). However, for connecting to Africa from major points in Europe, it would provide one stop connections to much of Africa via Casablanca. With QF fishing around Paris and Germany for possible B787 non-stops, RAM could provide more efficient routes to Africa for European travellers on ROW fares where the necessity to backtrack to LHR could be eliminated.
Given RAM's CEO will be in attendance at the oneworld meeting next week, one has to wonder why he would be present, if not for joining purposes? RAM is not currently a oneworld member. The ultimate irony, of course, would be if Qatar (QR) chooses to withdraw from oneworld - but subsequently turns out to be RAM's sponsor carrier into oneworld.
MKS11
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They fly from Casablanca to Doha, the home of Qatar Airways, is that not easy enough from Australia?
I'm more worried about the rumours of QR leaving oneworld..... That is much more of a concern. QF should get into bed with QR not EK.
AALF
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My take on it:
FFTrev
FFTrev
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I too am more concerned about QR leaving Oneworld instead of AT joining - very little value with AT !
EKdevotee
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Emirates already serves North Africa quite well. They are more reliable than RAM, and offer a one stop flight from Australia to Casablanca in better aircraft. Unless of course one world benefits are more important.
1Worldfreqflyer
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Oh dear Royal Air Maroc is heaps better than RJ or Royal Jordanian especially if flying out of Paris or Madrid to Marrakesh or elsewhere in Morocco. RJ is one of the worst airlines in the Oneworld alliance. The crew is horrendous and the purser just cannot be bothered, food is unpalatable in business class and the entertainment system just downright bad. They have no biz class amenities and no idea of customer service. The only good thing is that they operate Boeing 787 Dreamliners so they are a lot more comfortable but certainly an airline that is to be avoided!
Dredgy
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Emirates serves North and (particularly) West Africa quite poorly.
I've had more reliability issues with Air France than with RAM, in fact RAM is seamless when connecting West Africa to Europe & their short-haul product (both in Y & J) are pretty good.Casablanca is an excellent airport too (by African standards).