It's hard to predict. My heart says we should start to ease international travel restrictions now (well we should have already). My head tells me that some of the state premiers are going to push back against it happening as long as they can.
January will be far too early for our conservative, and very careful govenment, to allow international travel. I think July 2022 is far more likely, as it will be far clearer as to what is happening in those countries that have opened up with high vacciation levels.
I'm planning a trip to London next year, departing 1st July, but won't be making any bookings till much closer to the time.
Seems unlikely, however what is likely is that those of us in Vic and NSW will be able to travel overseas first, while those in WA and probably Qld will still be locked in their caves.
Not a chance given the quarantine facility being built in QLD and recent comments from WA and Tasmania in relation to the reopening plan. I’ll be surprised if we are open beyond NSW/VIC by then.
If we’re personally double vaccinated for travel, then I think the December time table is on, assuming the home quarantine trial in SA under trial now works out. The issue will be validating foreign jabs hence the US and UK first, as they use the same vaccines.
Seems unlikely, however what is likely is that those of us in Vic and NSW will be able to travel overseas first, while those in WA and probably Qld will still be locked in their caves.
Can you imagine a time when NSW & VIC have open international borders and then WA calls a press conference to announce that Perth will go into a snap lockdown because 1 positive case was detected in the community.
Anonymous having a snap lockdown on one case is what seems to work. See vic and ACT versus NSW to see the difference, but a snap lockdown may not affect international travel for double vacced people. Of course those leaving a lockdown area may need a PCR test as well and quarantine on arrival.
If we hit 80% vaccination national average (of all eligible) why should there be quarantine (home or hotel) for low risk countries, particularly when pretty much those who are eligible had been given the opportunity to vaccinate of at least 3 months (by Jan 2022)?
Just because someone decided to make a political nonsensical decision to fund a quarantine station at a site nowhere near a tertiary hospital doesn’t mean it makes Sienese to force people into quarantine just because some states feel like at and wouldn’t admit they built a white elephant based on a 15 page proposal with mostly pictorial content with no substance in detail
XWu when you see how sick double vacced people get in the UK with COVID-19 without going to hospital you wouldn’t wish it on anyone. Second around 3-5% of vacced people who get it end up in hospital. If the number is large it can still stretch the health system as the Brits are finding out. To say there is no suitable hospital in Toowoomba is falling for federal government propaganda. It is good to see you have access to the full Qld government proposal, most of us don’t for very obvious reasons.
If double vaxxed people are getting so sick in the UK, one would have to wonder if the vaccine works patrickk. Well it doesn't work very well and they know that, hence Australia will hold onto mandatory quarantine for some time to come. I am sure we will still be discussing this 12 months from now.
GoRobin the vaccine works and it does mostly keep people out of hospital and morgues, which is all it ever promised. The issue with the UKs 'let it rip policy' is that a small percentage of a very large number is still a large number. Hospitalisations are down from 10-20% to 2-3%. The issue with out other public health measures masks crowd limits etc the system if quickly overrun. In the UK many were vaccinated some time ago so may be due for a booster.
patrickk...the vaccines partly work. They don't stop infection and transmission and hence the requirement for quarantine. And you don't know in which people the vaccine may be working and that is why everyone coming into Australia will need to quarantine and that is why international travelling to and from Australia will continue to be severely impeded.
DVDA
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With Qantas’ schedule from December 20, what’s your gut feeling about international travel from January 22?
To be clear, that’s travel for fully vaccinated people to approved destinations (ie: Singapore) with at home (not hotel) quarantine on return.
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mviy
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It's hard to predict. My heart says we should start to ease international travel restrictions now (well we should have already). My head tells me that some of the state premiers are going to push back against it happening as long as they can.
X4platypus Banned
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Definitely not!
GBRGB
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Depends on where you live, WA or QLD no, SA and TAS maybe, VIC probably, NSW most likely.
Phil Young
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January will be far too early for our conservative, and very careful govenment, to allow international travel. I think July 2022 is far more likely, as it will be far clearer as to what is happening in those countries that have opened up with high vacciation levels.
I'm planning a trip to London next year, departing 1st July, but won't be making any bookings till much closer to the time.
russell
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Seems unlikely, however what is likely is that those of us in Vic and NSW will be able to travel overseas first, while those in WA and probably Qld will still be locked in their caves.
iflyineconomy
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Not a chance given the quarantine facility being built in QLD and recent comments from WA and Tasmania in relation to the reopening plan. I’ll be surprised if we are open beyond NSW/VIC by then.
patrickk
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If we’re personally double vaccinated for travel, then I think the December time table is on, assuming the home quarantine trial in SA under trial now works out. The issue will be validating foreign jabs hence the US and UK first, as they use the same vaccines.
anonymous
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Originally Posted by russell
Seems unlikely, however what is likely is that those of us in Vic and NSW will be able to travel overseas first, while those in WA and probably Qld will still be locked in their caves.
patrickk
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Anonymous having a snap lockdown on one case is what seems to work. See vic and ACT versus NSW to see the difference, but a snap lockdown may not affect international travel for double vacced people. Of course those leaving a lockdown area may need a PCR test as well and quarantine on arrival.
XWu
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If we hit 80% vaccination national average (of all eligible) why should there be quarantine (home or hotel) for low risk countries, particularly when pretty much those who are eligible had been given the opportunity to vaccinate of at least 3 months (by Jan 2022)?
Just because someone decided to make a political nonsensical decision to fund a quarantine station at a site nowhere near a tertiary hospital doesn’t mean it makes Sienese to force people into quarantine just because some states feel like at and wouldn’t admit they built a white elephant based on a 15 page proposal with mostly pictorial content with no substance in detail
patrickk
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XWu when you see how sick double vacced people get in the UK with COVID-19 without going to hospital you wouldn’t wish it on anyone. Second around 3-5% of vacced people who get it end up in hospital. If the number is large it can still stretch the health system as the Brits are finding out. To say there is no suitable hospital in Toowoomba is falling for federal government propaganda. It is good to see you have access to the full Qld government proposal, most of us don’t for very obvious reasons.
GoRobin
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If double vaxxed people are getting so sick in the UK, one would have to wonder if the vaccine works patrickk. Well it doesn't work very well and they know that, hence Australia will hold onto mandatory quarantine for some time to come. I am sure we will still be discussing this 12 months from now.
patrickk
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GoRobin the vaccine works and it does mostly keep people out of hospital and morgues, which is all it ever promised. The issue with the UKs 'let it rip policy' is that a small percentage of a very large number is still a large number. Hospitalisations are down from 10-20% to 2-3%. The issue with out other public health measures masks crowd limits etc the system if quickly overrun. In the UK many were vaccinated some time ago so may be due for a booster.
GoRobin
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patrickk...the vaccines partly work. They don't stop infection and transmission and hence the requirement for quarantine. And you don't know in which people the vaccine may be working and that is why everyone coming into Australia will need to quarantine and that is why international travelling to and from Australia will continue to be severely impeded.