Are Virgin Australia’s 777s on the way back?
Those excellent business class seats and that wonderful bar could soon return to Australian skies...
Five years after Virgin Australia’s Boeing 777 fleet was grounded by the pandemic and the airline’s subsequent collapse – and quickly ditched altogether by new owners Bain Capital – the big jets could be on their way back to Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane and Perth.
This surprise return for Virgin’s former flagships would come as Virgin Australia restarts long-range international flights under a strategic partnership with Qatar Airways which will see the Gulf carrier taking a 25% stake in the airline.
By mid-2025, the airlines says, Virgin expects to launch flights from Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane and Perth to Qatar Airway’s Doha hub, with onwards connections to over 100 destinations across Europe, the Middle East and Africa.
Those will complement Qatar’s current daily flights from Sydney, Brisbane and Perth, and the double-daily service from Melbourne.
Of course, Virgin Australia doesn’t have the planes, pilots or crew for these flights – which is why Qatar Airways will provide all those to Virgin under a packaged leasing deal.
It’s the same model which Qantas now uses to fly Finnair jets from Sydney to Singapore and Bangkok.
So to all intents and purposes, these ‘Virgin Australia’ flights will be Qatar Airways flights: although they’ll carry both VA and QR flight numbers, with everything from airport lounge access and a full serve of Velocity Point and status credits in the mix.
And as it happens, Qatar Airways’ fleet includes three former Virgin Australia Boeing 777s which it flies on a regular basis to destinations in Thailand, Vietnam and Cambodia, along with hops around the Gulf, the Maldives and Africa.
(Want to see where those three jets have been in the past week? Click here, here and here to track their recent movements on Flightradar24.)
Although painted with Qatar’s livery, these 777s still have the same seats and interiors as when Virgin Australia used to fly them between Australia and Los Angeles.
We can’t help but think the symbolism of those three ex-Virgin 777s returning to Australia to help Virgin resume international flying is simply too good an opportunity for Qatar Airways to pass up.
And it’ll be an eerie Twilight Zone moment of deja vu for Virgin Australia loyalists setting foot on these planes, because nothing has changed since Virgin’s 777 heyday from 2016 to 2020.
There’s that excellent business class: 37 private pods with direct aisle access and plenty of personal space.
Of course, each business class seat folds down into a fully lie-flat bed – just change into your Qatar Airways pyjamas and settle down for a good long sleep.
As it happens, Virgin Australia’s 777 business class was based on the same ‘Super Diamond’ platform from Collins Aerospace as Qatar’s A380 business class, albeit a much more evolved and stylistically refined version for which former VA boss John Borghetti took cues from the high-end auto industry.
So while it’s not the much-praised Qsuite, this remains a superb way to fly – especially when you add Qatar Airways’ excellent business class meals (which now include caviar) and service.
Then there’s the innovative inflight bar which once added a generous serve of jet-set glamour to Virgin’s flights across the Pacific.
Cleverly positioned in the plane’s main entry/exit zone, and between the two business class cabins, the bar stools and banquette seating allow passengers to enjoy a drink, snacks or even breakfast, as well as providing a space to escape from the seat and socialise with other high flyers.
It’s not known if Qatar Airways would recreate that experience, along similar lines to its A380 superjumbo bar and lounge area, or leave the space empty and unattended.
These 777s also have Virgin’s premium economy cabin of 24 recliners, which Qatar Airways offers as a Comfort+ upgrade option from economy.
And they’ll certainly make those 15-hour flights between Australia and Doha more comfortable: the sculpted seats are not only an inch wider than the economy seats but have better back support, footrests and a generous 9” recline (compared to 6” in economy).
Most importantly, there’s plenty of legroom, with the seats set at a 41” pitch (compared to 32” in economy).
Alongside those three former Virgin Australia 777s, Qatar Airways is also flying four Cathay Pacific Boeing 777s leased from the HK-based airline.
If any of those come to Australia to become ‘Virgin Australia’ flights, passengers will be able to look forward to not only a solid business class product but six Cathay 777 first class berths.
It’s the same spacious open suite design, except that the seat upholstery has been changed to Qatar’s signature burgundy.
This is in effect Qatar Airways’ only first class offering apart from the A380 superjumbos (although of course a new Qatar Airways 777X first class is on the way for 2026).
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24 Aug 2011
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If VA are going to be daily to DOH from MEL, SYD, BNE and PER, they are going to need more than 6 planes. Realistically, they would need at least 8. Whether the 777-300ER is too much plane for some of these routes is also worth considering. A 787 may be more appropriate.
11 Sep 2015
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Well, obviously QR will need more than six planes for this. I think we might see Perth lose its A380 when the VA flight is added because that could be too much capacity for PER, the QR 787 will be quite capable of PER-DOH.
11 Sep 2015
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This would be so great to see! Not every business class seat has to always be the latest and greatest. The VA 777's The Business is a dated seat, no doubt about that, it will be showing signs of wear and tear because of its own age plus QR works these planes hard, they don't want them sitting on the ground, look at the flights in those links. And sure they won't have USB-C, wireless charging etc. But for what they are, they're still pretty good, and good enough for what they will be used for.
28 Oct 2020
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Thanks for the good story. I have maintained the Qatar Privilege Club Gold from the VA Velocity status match, and noticed I can also book Comfort+ for $0 'add on', as well as emergency exit seats which I have booked previously (a great benefit.) I noticed some QR flights using CX aircraft out of HKG or HKT had Comfort+ as CX offerer PremEcon, and now 'maybe' there's a chance the 777s in your story could fly to AU. Planning is half the fun ;-)
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