BA to remove Club Europe middle seat table in new Airbus A320neo jets
British Airways is dropping Club Europe's middle seat shelf on its new Airbus A320neo and A321neo jets, leaving business class flyers with a little less room to spread out their stuff.
The leather-lined shroud – call it a cocktail table, console or whatever else takes your fancy – usually sits astride the middle seat at the pointy end of BA's current fleet.
Shared between passengers on either side of the otherwise-empty seat, it's handy for being able to pop your drink or snack off to one side while you continue working or reading.
However, a spokesman for British Airways has confirmed to Australian Business Traveller that the airline's new short-range A320neo fleet won't be fitted with the centre seat table.
He stressed there are no plans to offer that middle seat for sale and effectively boost Club Europe capacity by 50%.
"While the bridge has been removed from the middle seat in Club Europe on the new aircraft, the middle seat itself will remain unoccupied as we know this is incredibly important to our customers."
British Airways has ordered 35 aircraft from Airbus' newest A320neo family for delivery over the next two years to replace its older A319 and A320 jets.
The Oneworld member will pick up the keys to its first A320neo this month, with the first of the larger-model A321neo pulling into Heathrow's hangars in October.
14 Oct 2016
Total posts 12
To be picky - and they haven't said that they will do it(!) - but to sell the middle seat increases capacity from four to six seats per row, a 50% increase in capacity.
Air New Zealand - Airpoints
21 Jan 2016
Total posts 193
The cost of the spare middle seat for Business Class for airlines like BA, Air NZ, etc on single aisle aircraft, is incorporated into the cost of the other two seats. BA wont sell that middle seat, as the cost of that middle is covered.
I can see why BA is removing the centre table, it gives them flexibility in charter, leasing or selling their A320's to other carriers as 'one' class configuration.
29 Mar 2014
Total posts 78
You know their A320 is already a one-class aircraft right? That table is adjusted by the crew prior to boarding, not out of the factory. The size of the business cabin changes every time that plane flies. Got 14 passengers on Flight 1 and only 8 on the next? Well the business cabin is gonna be 4 rows on Flight 1 and 2 rows on the next.
Air New Zealand - Airpoints
21 Jan 2016
Total posts 193
Course I know that BA's A320's are a one class and the seating for Club Europe is adjusted to passenger demand. BA Club Europe seating configuration is similar to Air NZ Works Deluxe seating configuration on their A320's - Window-Space-Aisle.
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
13 Jan 2015
Total posts 580
BA is a joke...no extra legroom, no extra width and no extra storage. The best euro J I know of is Aegean who give extra 6 inches extra legroom, the arm rest next to the middle seat actually folds to the side to give an extra 2 inches width and I've food them sometimes cheaper than BA Y on the same route. Even in Y they still serve hot meals for free.
21 Apr 2017
Total posts 19
Agree that BA Business Club Europe is a joke. Have flown them many times, and the only reason is due to the One World Alliance, otherwise I would give it a complete miss. I have got smart, and always pick row 1, at least there is some leg room and no one pushing back. The service, food and wines are reasonable, but I have found that the staff are embarrassed by this so called business product.
Australians should be careful what they wish for, and stop complaining about our domestic business. I have travelled domestically on many world airlines and Qantas is streets ahead.
If the centre tray is removed, it really then becomes economy, as at least the tray does give you somewhere to put your drink and tray when working. If this happens I will have to forget BA.
As for BA international business, lets not go there.
British Airways - Executive Club
18 May 2017
Total posts 13
@krisdude - BA already has this flexibility because the centre table is easily inserted and removed. The ‘business cabin’ on any given short haul flight can range from 3 rows to 12, depending on how many business seats they sell. They just move the curtain divider forward and remove centre tables when they need less rows.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
28 Oct 2011
Total posts 467
Suspect it's more a space-saving exercise - if many of the consoles are not being used (because only 2 or 3 rows are in J config), the excess consoles are quite bulky and have to be stored somewhere in the cabin.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
09 Jun 2011
Total posts 88
Plus removing them from every flight will save weight and therefore fuel and $
British Airways - Executive Club
18 May 2017
Total posts 13
@MHG - I don’t disagree with your complaints re: BA short haul business, but who else are you going to fly? All short haul euro carriers have the same set up, except for maybe Aeroflot and a Turkish on some planes (useful only if you are travelling to Russia or Turkey!). Air France, Lufthansa, KLM are all the same.
Singapore Airlines - KrisFlyer
20 Jun 2019
Total posts 10
This is exactly the correct stragegy. tick :)
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
19 Feb 2014
Total posts 439
I'm not sure what is a bigger joke, removing it, or keeping it?! BA certainly on a par, if not, below the standards of the US3 now. And I'm really not sure how they get away with it - must be a very naive frequent flyer base.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
19 Jan 2018
Total posts 88
I agree with you Chris. I think it can be safely said that BA is below the standard of the US carriers in terms of the J product (F in US terms) it offers on short-haul flights.
British Airways - Executive Club
18 May 2017
Total posts 13
@Chris_PER - they ‘get away with it’ because they are by far the dominant carrier at Heathrow, and their short haul competition is no better (long haul is another story). As a frequent BA flyer I’m certainly not naive - more often than not BA is the most convenient option with more direct flights to European and North American destinations at competitive prices. For example, you can fly direct to many cities in the US on BA that you’d otherwise have to connect via a major hub if on a US3 carrier. course, it’s another story flying to the Middle East, Asia and Australia (hello Qatar Q Suites!).
16 Nov 2011
Total posts 580
Better than the 5 abreast that BA used to have on their A320 family aircraft, but still what is the point of even having 'Club Europe"
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
19 Jan 2018
Total posts 88
I suspect that corporate travel policies and the like are the only real reason that makes it viable for them to continue to differentiate the product.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
27 Jul 2016
Total posts 56
Just another cost cutting exercise by an airline an embarrassing shadow of its former self (a bit like the UK in general). Having said that I've booked 1A both ways between LHR and Dusseldorf in August/Sep because it's Oneworld and has the best schedule on that route. It will be an interesting experience...
14 Sep 2015
Total posts 8
Have they dropped the pre-departure drink or are you just supposed to hold the glass?
22 Jul 2017
Total posts 1
BA know that they have an almost inelastic base load from UK domestic shuttles, corporate booked J (and F) travel and a cleverly worked executive club card programme. They are not competitive in any class, but perpetuate the mystique of a world class airline with grand labels for actually hollowed out products. This A32oneo news fits into this mindset of an enterprise driven by cost rather than differentiation or customer service. Fortunately US competitors are now improving and anything eastbound is already in another league.
BA Gold
01 Apr 2012
Total posts 197
The european short haul sector is very different to the oz domestic sector. The dominant carriers in europe are the loco's, Ryanair, Easyjet etc. Unlike in OZ where the dominant carriers are the full service airlines.
17 Mar 2017
Total posts 14
Genuinely a poor decision.
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