the only way QANTAS (the branded airline) would open more int routes and help, is if those routes will be profitable...i think we (the Australian public), and also employees of QANTAS need to accept that QANTAS must evolve/adapt to survive... in whatever way/shape/form it needs to do this... the air travel environment is changing constantly.. BUT we all hope to see QANTAS branded aircraft in more airports around the world..
I agree but with what your saying but I personal think that they need to open more routes from australia . I do think they do need to adapt and survive
I think they need to expand more in asia to more major hubs like as mention down below i also think they need to have Red Q as well to help tap into the asian market
It will be hard to make business sense initially, but I am suggesting Guangzhao and Beijing in China. ?Taiwan and South Korea (these should wait for 787-9, or be destinations for Jetstar on 787). Europe is essentially a no go zone atm.....too much competition and recession....maybe in a few years 787 services to Paris or Rome, or perhaps A380 services to Germany.
I think the single best option for Qantas in the short term in the USA. A return to SFO with 787s, more onwards services from LAX to Washington DC, Chicargo, Atlanta. Daily A380 flights to DFW from SYD, 787 flights to DFW from MEL.
The long term future of the Kangaroo route should also be rationalised. SYD/MEL - LHR (via SIN/HKG/PUD) would give great flexabilty in terms of options for business travellers. This is a long term goal, but if they magnage to get Red Q off the ground the Qantas should be looking to increase A380 flights to the key Asian hubs, then have Red Q do all of the regional flights. It will make perfect use of the hub and spoke method, but without Red Q they are point to point reoutes and less likely to produce profits.
One point I should raise is the amount of time QF A380s spend sitting on the tarmac in LAX....a LAX based QF/AA crew that could do return sectors on high volume domestic US routes as QF/AA flights during the approx. 16 hour ground time in LA could make great use of the planes. That sort of option would surely enable AA to retire a bunch of old narrow bodied Jets and offer their customers the WAY superior A380 international product. There is even time to do a return LAX - JFK sector...thats what the 747s on 107/108 used to do.....
Their is a flight that goes from sydney with a 747 and stops on the west coast of the US and goes onto JFK with an A330. Qantas is only allowed to use this A330 for customers who were on the flight that came from australia because of an agreement that they would not market that flight for domestic US use. Therefore they can only do flights to the US which are from australia and cannot do US Domestic if that makes sense. For them to do US domestic they would have to change their agreement with AA... does that make sense???
Yeah, I have come across that info before; however, I reakon they should revisit that agreement to explore possibilities. AA would essentially be getting revenue from it without any maintainance, crew or various other fees. Im sure there aremore complex laws and rules as well, but it would be a great use of those aircraft.
toby777
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Do you think Qantas should open more international routes?
would this help Qantas in any way
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the only way QANTAS (the branded airline) would open more int routes and help, is if those routes will be profitable...i think we (the Australian public), and also employees of QANTAS need to accept that QANTAS must evolve/adapt to survive... in whatever way/shape/form it needs to do this... the air travel environment is changing constantly.. BUT we all hope to see QANTAS branded aircraft in more airports around the world..
toby777
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I agree but with what your saying but I personal think that they need to open more routes from australia . I do think they do need to adapt and survive
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Where else do you think they need to go? Do you think they need to keep their red roo branding and get into asia more?
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I think they need to expand more in asia to more major hubs like as mention down below i also think they need to have Red Q as well to help tap into the asian market
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It will be hard to make business sense initially, but I am suggesting Guangzhao and Beijing in China. ?Taiwan and South Korea (these should wait for 787-9, or be destinations for Jetstar on 787). Europe is essentially a no go zone atm.....too much competition and recession....maybe in a few years 787 services to Paris or Rome, or perhaps A380 services to Germany.
I think the single best option for Qantas in the short term in the USA. A return to SFO with 787s, more onwards services from LAX to Washington DC, Chicargo, Atlanta. Daily A380 flights to DFW from SYD, 787 flights to DFW from MEL.
The long term future of the Kangaroo route should also be rationalised. SYD/MEL - LHR (via SIN/HKG/PUD) would give great flexabilty in terms of options for business travellers. This is a long term goal, but if they magnage to get Red Q off the ground the Qantas should be looking to increase A380 flights to the key Asian hubs, then have Red Q do all of the regional flights. It will make perfect use of the hub and spoke method, but without Red Q they are point to point reoutes and less likely to produce profits.
DrTGanguly
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One point I should raise is the amount of time QF A380s spend sitting on the tarmac in LAX....a LAX based QF/AA crew that could do return sectors on high volume domestic US routes as QF/AA flights during the approx. 16 hour ground time in LA could make great use of the planes. That sort of option would surely enable AA to retire a bunch of old narrow bodied Jets and offer their customers the WAY superior A380 international product. There is even time to do a return LAX - JFK sector...thats what the 747s on 107/108 used to do.....
toby777
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Yeah thats a really good point it would make sense for them to do it
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Their is a flight that goes from sydney with a 747 and stops on the west coast of the US and goes onto JFK with an A330. Qantas is only allowed to use this A330 for customers who were on the flight that came from australia because of an agreement that they would not market that flight for domestic US use. Therefore they can only do flights to the US which are from australia and cannot do US Domestic if that makes sense. For them to do US domestic they would have to change their agreement with AA... does that make sense???
toby777
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are u trying to play me as a moron because i am not !!! and yes now i understand !
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When i said 'does that make sense?', i was referring to my lack of skill in being able to convey something, not telling u that u r a moron.
toby777
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right sorry i read that wrong but i do think they could benifit from opening more routes to the usa
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They currently got to HON, LAX, JFK and DFW... where else could they go?
toby777
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To more major ports in US for example Atlanta, Houston, Boston and Chicago
Just a thought they could make syd a transit hub for the usa that is qantas
DrTGanguly
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Yeah, I have come across that info before; however, I reakon they should revisit that agreement to explore possibilities. AA would essentially be getting revenue from it without any maintainance, crew or various other fees. Im sure there aremore complex laws and rules as well, but it would be a great use of those aircraft.