Is the skybed available on all A330's from singapore to syd?
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nw
nw
Member since 31 May 2016
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Is the skybed available on all A330's from singapore to syd?
AnthonyvB
AnthonyvB
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards Plantium
Member since 19 Jun 2013
Total posts 82
Pretty sure the answer is No
msport2012
msport2012
Delta Air Lines - SkyMiles
Member since 14 Apr 2013
Total posts 294
All flights with QF from AUS - SIN have the upgraded A330's with the new Business Suite
Serg
Serg
QFF
Member since 12 Apr 2013
Total posts 999
Qanats does not really care about Asia.
Chris2304
Chris2304
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 10 Apr 2013
Total posts 167
Qantas is doing the best it can with Asia right now. It's being held back due to lack of slots/not enough runways and a need for more aircraft which will hopefully come in the form of 787-10 or B777-9.
Serg
Serg
QFF
Member since 12 Apr 2013
Total posts 999
Come on! They do not have even direct flight from MEL to BKK and offer Jetstar tickets instead! On PER-SIN route they use 737 with “super-modern” J seats. And on other routes to Asia they had worst J product (not exactly true, their master Emirates not better in any way) and only with new J seats became competitive enough to be considered on par with SQ and CX.
It is sad story that does not make me happy at all, but it is damn true – since start flying Europe via DXB QF does not care much about Asia or simply believe that they cannot compete with carriers like SQ and CX, and this is damn true.
Doubleplatinum Banned
Doubleplatinum Banned
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer Platinum
Member since 07 Feb 2013
Total posts 431
Why on earth would they put a a full service carrier onto a route populated mostly by holiday makers? Hardly a case for enough business travellers to be putting a QF service on instead of JQ.
Chris C.
Chris C.
Member since 24 Apr 2012
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Doubleplatinum: We've edited your post to remove an unnecessary generalisation about travellers to Thailand. Please refrain from posting those kinds of remarks here.
Serg
Serg
QFF
Member since 12 Apr 2013
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Firstly BKK is business destination also and QF has flight from SYD. Wanna compare “true” business destinations in Asia? Easy! MEL-SIN – QF has only one daily flight (plus weekend one – why they bother if it BUSINESS destination?) with almost 300 pax including 28 J. Now look at SQ – 4 B777 totaling more than 1000 pax with more than 200 J! Plus we have EK and few lowcosters. MEL-HKG – QF again one flights with the same arrangements as to SIN while CX managing fly 3 aircrafts with total capacity about 750 pax with more than 100 in J. So does not matter how you look at it result is the same – QF does not care much about Asia routes.
hutch
hutch
Member since 07 Oct 2012
Total posts 772
This argument has been had before... many times.
SQ has many more frequencies to Singapore than QF. They always will. From Singapore, SQ has a large network which is can send customers to. Qantas will never have the range of destinations from Singapore, so a larger portion of its pax need to be O&D. The same goes for Cathay and Hong Kong.
Both Singapore and Hong Kong are large single cities, with large population bases surrounding. Australia's population is spread out and they only other feed available to QF is NZ.
By all means, be critical of QF's asian network, but comparing them to Singapore/Cathay is not like for like.
Serg
Serg
QFF
Member since 12 Apr 2013
Total posts 999
Hutch,
I do not understand your arguments. Pax flying TO and FROM AUSTRALIA. So their origin/destination is OUR soil. Why the heck then SQ or CX have to server SIGNIFICANTLY more pax and SIGNIFICANTLY better en route to Australia? Perhaps because all those deregulation and privatization? We will not be able to beat them on commercial level for many reasons like our salaries for example, so we have to protect our market somehow else and we not doing so. Result is what we see – people flying to and from Australia using non-Australian carriers. More flying via (or to/from) Asia than via (or to/from) Dubai? Yep, and this is means only one thing for me – Qantas did really bad choice when they ditch Singapore as their hop place to Europe.
YMMV of course.
rufusfly
rufusfly
Member since 13 May 2016
Total posts 54
Doubleplatinum Holiday makers travel in J class on QF 23.MY wife and I travel to Thailand regularly .Most times the J class is always full.It is not just business travellers that fly J class.
Doubleplatinum Banned
Doubleplatinum Banned
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer Platinum
Member since 07 Feb 2013
Total posts 431
Not sure what that has to do with what we are discussing but ok
Serg
Serg
QFF
Member since 12 Apr 2013
Total posts 999
NB my interpretation of OP question is “flat SkyBed” because technically speaking all J product from QF to Asia has SkyBed…..
hutch
hutch
Member since 07 Oct 2012
Total posts 772
There is not, nor ever has been, any "flat skybeds" on the A330's.
Whilst there are still a few non-refurb A330's flying around (2 x skybeds, 1 workbench), Syd-Sin is now generally seeing QF business suite... which is lie-flat.