Qantas and KLM are partnering on flights to Amsterdam, with Singapore acting as the common hub for a codeshare alliance beginning November 2018.
Similar in scope to the Qantas/Air France liaison, the newly-minted agreement will see Qantas carry travellers through to Singapore where they'll transfer to KLM's daily flight to the Dutch capital – with the option to book that flight under a QF flight number for a full serve of Qantas points and status credits.
Eligible Qantas travellers – including business class passengers and Platinum and Gold-grade frequent flyers – will also have access to the KLM Lounge in Amsterdam.
A 12.40am departure from Singapore on KLM's KL836 will provide plenty of time to relax in the Qantas Singapore Lounge, with the 7.35am touchdown at Amsterdam's Schipol Airport putting the whole day ahead of you, along with connections through to the rest of Europe on KLM's network.
The KL835 return leg is wheels up at 9.10pm to reach Singapore at 3.25pm.
KLM flies a Boeing 777-300ER between Singapore and Amsterdam, with 34 lie-flat seats in business class arranged in a 2-2-2- layout.
The seats – based on the original B/E Aerospace Diamond platform – and the cabin take their colour cues from KLM's hallmark blue.
Qantas says that both airlines "are also exploring redemption opportunities on codeshare flights" which could allow Qantas points to be used to book a seat or snare an upgrade from economy to business class.
David Flynn is the Editor-in-Chief of Executive Traveller and a bit of a travel tragic with a weakness for good coffee, shopping and lychee martinis.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
23 Oct 2013
Total posts 699
Is it just me or is Qantas's new approach to sign codeshare deals with every European airline (Finnair, Air France and now KLM).
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
17 Jan 2012
Total posts 172
I would assume that QF make more money on a ticket by sending via Asia like this as they are getting part of the carriage on their metal. Unlike the codeshare via Dubai where it is EK metal the whole journey.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
14 Sep 2012
Total posts 382
But then why have a mega code share deal and strategic partnership with EK? Surely that’s the priority, or your own aircraft to London.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
02 Jul 2011
Total posts 1374
Or it recognises that manyz particularly leisure travellers like a stopover, and Singapore may be more appealing than Dubai.
24 Aug 2011
Total posts 1224
Does this replace the EK codeshare to AMS via DXB or is this in addition to the EK JV? I fly to AMS a couple of times a year for work using the EK/QF codeshare and will probably continue to do so as the EK arrangement allows arrival and departure from multiple European ports rather than just AMS.
22 Jan 2018
Total posts 98
I’ll stick to EK if I were you. I like KL’s offering on the 789 but I hated the 77W 2-2-2 config
Qantas
19 Apr 2012
Total posts 1429
Do note KLM and Air France are the same company so it makes sense to code share with both
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
14 Sep 2012
Total posts 382
Honestly and truly why would you go with KL or even AF when you have the QF/EK codeshare mega mix of A380s and multiple flights. Unless you specifically have a meeting in SG then up to AMS I guess it works...but as an option to Europe, weird.
08 Feb 2018
Total posts 165
Price, avoiding Dubai and actually flying on a QF plane are three reasons!
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
14 Sep 2012
Total posts 382
Yeah I get it, I guess I just never think of AF or KL or any Skyteam airlines, it just seems so far removed from QF or any of the usual suspect partners in oneworld or EK.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
29 Jul 2013
Total posts 203
I still much prefer connecting through SIN and having the option of breaking my trip with a 1-2 day stopover in a city that is much more interesting. I also love flying into a city on their national carrier, the flight there serves as a bit of a taste of what's to come.
16 Nov 2011
Total posts 580
If the price of the Qantas and Air France agreement is to go by I don’t think price is the key.
22 Jan 2018
Total posts 98
I don’t know that I entirely agree with you about AF. Having flown out of both SFO and SEA (where I’m based) in their refurbed 772 and 77W, I was most impressed. 1-2-1 config. I’m told their 789 is that way too. The only bad AF configs are the A330 and A380. Service, wine and dessert were top notch, service very warm (yes!).
22 Jan 2018
Total posts 98
AT - my apologies, I saw in your most recent comment that you meant it from a miles accrual POV. In that case, yes, I agree with you
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
15 Mar 2016
Total posts 167
Ive flown with KLM a few times and, whilst they’ll never have the fancy factor of QR or the polish of SQ, they’re reliable, efficient and safe. Dutch efficiency definitely shines through but I’ve never had a bad flight with them. Bonus points for the lovely Delft gin houses! I would fly this combo over QF/EK purely to avoid DXB!
16 Nov 2011
Total posts 580
SQ polished? Machine like yeah, but when things don't go to plan the polish turns to custard rather quickly.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
10 Dec 2014
Total posts 43
I rectify flew to Amsterdam and ended flying with SQ as the only options with QF were through Heathrow and onwards with BA. I was told that Amsterdam was not avalible as part of the EK deal with QF.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
27 Nov 2014
Total posts 51
As someone who flew to AMS last week I can assure you that both EK147 and EK149 are available as QF codeshare (QF8147/8149 respectively).
12 Dec 2012
Total posts 1031
If only QF would work more with their oneworld partners MH, JL and CX.
25 Jul 2011
Total posts 12
Amsterdam is an excellent European port. It would be great if QF51 from BNE to SIN was rescheduled to better connect with this flight (and QF1 to LHR). Almost 7 hour connection is too long.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
09 Feb 2015
Total posts 387
Or even better still would be to have a departure around 9am and 4pm. There was a rumour 12 months ago of a second daily from BNE, but obviously nothing eventuated.
Delta Air Lines - SkyMiles
14 Apr 2013
Total posts 325
Just looked on qf and I can still book QF ticketed operated my EK DXB - AMS
15 Feb 2018
Total posts 43
I like the idea, as that way I get to fly QF metal, rather than Emirates.. Look forward to the day when Qantas fly all the way to AMS, maybe even direct from PER.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
14 Dec 2016
Total posts 42
It would be just as cool if KLM flew dirrect to perth
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
14 Dec 2016
Total posts 42
I like the idea of beer on tap 40,000 feet up :) ..
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer - Chairmans Lounge
01 Sep 2011
Total posts 416
these so-called alliances are becoming less important, just get rid of them and maintain JVs that could link on an RTW. Seriously, what's the point a lot of the time. I'd rather stick on QF all the way to LHR and then connect on BA for an hour. If the alliance is there why not reinstate so many of the code shares that used to happen and not be frenemies?
Jetstar Airways - Qantas Frequent Flyer
24 Aug 2018
Total posts 112
Bring it on! Right now I would have to go to Amsterdam via Heathrow, so a visit to an elderly sister will be so much easier,and achieve some status points as well. Project Sunrise could very well be extended. Well done Alan!
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
22 Jul 2015
Total posts 219
Plenty of anti DXB bias but I'm in the minority who prefers that over SIN. Try getting into and out of the SIN lounge on QF1/2 given where the aircraft often parks ie a long way off. Other than that schipol is an effecient airport to transit and avoids the mess that LHR often is
08 Jul 2018
Total posts 4
One may get a better deal from qantas club at least in Singapore. This trip to Europe via Singapore on Emirates ,the Qantas Club is closed in the morning and connections in Dubai too tight both ways to access the club and nothing at Ams.
04 Dec 2017
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04 Jan 2019
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The big advantage is the KLM network. KLM serves 87 airports across Europe. The question is where you need to be, KLM will fligh you there...
16 Nov 2011
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08 Jul 2018
Total posts 4
With this KLM codeshare ,would Qantas Club members have access to KLM lounges in Amsterdam ?
Jetstar Airways - Qantas Frequent Flyer
24 Aug 2018
Total posts 112
Bring it on. With very elderly relatives in the Netherlands, a direct code sharing flight direct to Amsterdam sounds a lot better than QF 09 to London and a change of terminals for a KLM flight or worse still BA to Amsterdam. Hopefully the J flight direct might work out cheaper too. Any advice on that out there?
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