The countdown is on for the delivery of the first Qantas Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner. Australian Business Traveller will be aboard the invitation-only 'ferry flight' from Seattle to Sydney (and we hope to share with you some great 'behind the scenes' snippets and snaps) – but for now, we can confirm the following details for the delivery flight.
The flight number is QF7879, and it's scheduled to depart Seattle at noon (local time) on Tuesday October 17, and arrive at Honolulu at 2pm the same day – where we will have an overnight break before being wheels-up at 11.30pm on Wednesday October 18.
The current timetable – which could vary a bit, as these things are wont to do – will see QF7879 touching down at Sydney on Friday October 20 at around 7am. It'll then taxi around past the Qantas lounges at T3 (a good chance for some sticky-beaking from the windows!) to pull into the T3-adjacent Hangar 96 for a special (also invite-only) arrival event which will run through to mid-morning.
I am surprised they are not going direct to Sydney. The plane definitely has the legs. I am guessing it is due to crew hours, but since it is a delivery flight, for a plane they keep saying has amazing range, I can't see why they wouldn't load extra crew and do it properly.
I am surprised they are not going direct to Sydney. The plane definitely has the legs. I am guessing it is due to crew hours, but since it is a delivery flight, for a plane they keep saying has amazing range, I can't see why they wouldn't load extra crew and do it properly.
David can confirm, but it is to do with arrival timings into SYD and the PR aspect of the flight.
How are they expecting to get from PER-LHR in one hop if they have to have a 30+ stand down in HNL from SEA. Surely if its related to PR in SYD couldn't they depart SEA later?
7AM Friday arrival into SYD could've been quite easily done nonstop with a 10PM Wednesday departure from Seattle. I assume they are picking up VIPs and press in HNL hence the stopover. Even then, I expect the plane will be fairly empty with only pax in J class. (Don't think VIPs would like 9 abreast Y class and QF won't want press concentrating on the back of the bus!!!)
It could also be to do with the cost. Just because it can fly direct it doesn't mean that it's economic to do such a long flight without paying customers onboard.
A shame it's flying into SYD not MEL when it's going to be based in MEL.
I am told by a friend at Qantas its also been a tradition to overnight in Hawaii on all Boeing Delivery flights. I am pretty sure Jetstar also did the same on the delivery flights for the 787-8
Just to clear up the Hawaii stopover: it's certainly the case for some Boeing 737 deliveries I've been on (and also the Jetstar Boeing 787-8 delivery flight), although at least one has been at Fiji... this can have much to do with scheduling arrival of the flight into Sydney at an optimum media-friendly event-friendly time. The Qantas Boeing 787-9 certainly could do non-stop from Seattle to Sydney – Air New Zealand's 787=9 delivery flight did Seattle-Auckland in a single leg, but it was a long leg and as I recall, arrival time into Auckland was rather late and not at a TV/media-friendly time.
In the case of this Qantas delivery flight, the timings and stopover also have a PR angle: it's very much a working flight in many ways, with interviews and TV segments etc etc done on board, which wouldn't work well if the flight left Seattle at 10pm; splitting the flight at Hawaii also allows media to experience both the daytime and night-time aspects of the flight & service, while also providing that nice morning arrival into Sydney for TV coverage and then (I presume) letting staff visit Hangar 96 throughout the day to check out the newest member of the fleet.
David
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The countdown is on for the delivery of the first Qantas Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner. Australian Business Traveller will be aboard the invitation-only 'ferry flight' from Seattle to Sydney (and we hope to share with you some great 'behind the scenes' snippets and snaps) – but for now, we can confirm the following details for the delivery flight.
The flight number is QF7879, and it's scheduled to depart Seattle at noon (local time) on Tuesday October 17, and arrive at Honolulu at 2pm the same day – where we will have an overnight break before being wheels-up at 11.30pm on Wednesday October 18.
The current timetable – which could vary a bit, as these things are wont to do – will see QF7879 touching down at Sydney on Friday October 20 at around 7am. It'll then taxi around past the Qantas lounges at T3 (a good chance for some sticky-beaking from the windows!) to pull into the T3-adjacent Hangar 96 for a special (also invite-only) arrival event which will run through to mid-morning.
flychrisfly
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Did the Boeing factory tour today and saw no Skippies on tails :(
Grannular
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I am surprised they are not going direct to Sydney. The plane definitely has the legs. I am guessing it is due to crew hours, but since it is a delivery flight, for a plane they keep saying has amazing range, I can't see why they wouldn't load extra crew and do it properly.
mannej
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David can confirm, but it is to do with arrival timings into SYD and the PR aspect of the flight.
Timmy22bc
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How are they expecting to get from PER-LHR in one hop if they have to have a 30+ stand down in HNL from SEA. Surely if its related to PR in SYD couldn't they depart SEA later?
reeves35
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7AM Friday arrival into SYD could've been quite easily done nonstop with a 10PM Wednesday departure from Seattle. I assume they are picking up VIPs and press in HNL hence the stopover. Even then, I expect the plane will be fairly empty with only pax in J class. (Don't think VIPs would like 9 abreast Y class and QF won't want press concentrating on the back of the bus!!!)
mviy
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It could also be to do with the cost. Just because it can fly direct it doesn't mean that it's economic to do such a long flight without paying customers onboard.
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blaird
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I am told by a friend at Qantas its also been a tradition to overnight in Hawaii on all Boeing Delivery flights. I am pretty sure Jetstar also did the same on the delivery flights for the 787-8
Nick Sydney 2
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Worlds longest gestation period....that QF baby better be good.
David
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Just to clear up the Hawaii stopover: it's certainly the case for some Boeing 737 deliveries I've been on (and also the Jetstar Boeing 787-8 delivery flight), although at least one has been at Fiji... this can have much to do with scheduling arrival of the flight into Sydney at an optimum media-friendly event-friendly time.
The Qantas Boeing 787-9 certainly could do non-stop from Seattle to Sydney – Air New Zealand's 787=9 delivery flight did Seattle-Auckland in a single leg, but it was a long leg and as I recall, arrival time into Auckland was rather late and not at a TV/media-friendly time.
In the case of this Qantas delivery flight, the timings and stopover also have a PR angle: it's very much a working flight in many ways, with interviews and TV segments etc etc done on board, which wouldn't work well if the flight left Seattle at 10pm; splitting the flight at Hawaii also allows media to experience both the daytime and night-time aspects of the flight & service, while also providing that nice morning arrival into Sydney for TV coverage and then (I presume) letting staff visit Hangar 96 throughout the day to check out the newest member of the fleet.
patrickk
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Also it is good to have the press fresh on arrival. Even in business class a 14hour flight zonks you out a bit.
Bob Burgess
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David, will AusBT be giving readers a chance to attend the 'invitation-only' welcome event at Hangar 96 for the B789's arrival?
David
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We're hopeful of that, Bob – and if so, we'll run a reader contest here :)
markpk
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Would be awesome if you could get them over the line David...
And well done on getting a seat on the flight. I can't wait for the reviews