Review: Qantas vs Virgin business class, Sydney-Melbourne
Here’s how the short-hop business class experience compares between the country’s largest carriers.
The skyways between Sydney and Melbourne are Australia’s most highly-travelled and most competitive air corridor, with over 160 flights a day by Qantas, Virgin Australia, Rex and Jetstar making the 90-minute dash between the nation’s largest cities.
While Jetstar remains a low-cost economy-only play and Rex is gaining altitude with the launch of its long-awaited Rex Flyer loyalty program, Qantas and Virgin Australia remain entrenched as the dominant airlines battling for the hearts and wallets of travellers – especially in the lucrative business class market.
So how do they compare? To find out, Executive Traveller recently put both airlines to the test, flying Virgin Australia business class from Sydney to Melbourne, and then Qantas business class on the return leg from Melbourne back to Sydney.
Check-in
Business class passengers – along with top-tier Velocity and Beyond members – on Virgin Australia weekday morning flights out of Sydney enjoy the fast track treatment of the Sydney T2 Premium Entry, open Monday to Friday between 5am and 8am, as long as they don’t have any bags to be checked.
This convenient setup speeds your way from kerb to the Virgin Australia lounge in under two minutes, bypassing the busy departure hall and security queue altogether. (When the Premium Entry is closed there’s still a priority check-in lane in the main T2 departure hall.)
Qantas doesn’t have anything similar, but the priority check-in queue at its domestic terminals is your ticket to sidestepping the crowds, and we make our way through security to the Qantas business lounge in minutes.
Baggage
Most business travellers on Australia’s east coast ‘triangle’ routes fly in carry-on only mode with just a cabin bag.
Qantas’ domestic business class carry-on baggage allowance is a single bag up to 10kgs or two smaller bags to a total of 14kg, along with one personal item such as a handbag, satchel or messenger bag.
Virgin’s domestic business class carry-on baggage allowance is a tighter 7kg for a single ‘standard piece’, although you can bring on board two smaller bags of up to 7kg each or combine that standard piece with a garment bag at 7kg each.
If you have checked luggage, domestic business class allowances for Qantas and Virgin are the same: two bags of up to 32kg each, or three bags if you hold Qantas Platinum or Velocity Platinum status.
Lounges
Lounges are very much part of the business class proposition, and they’re a key area where Qantas and Virgin differ.
Business class passengers and Velocity frequent flyers holding Gold and Platinum status enjoy access to Virgin Australia lounges both before and after their flight.
Virgin’s Sydney hangout spans two levels, although the upper level is open only during peak hours to handle the swelling crowds, who can choose from a wide mix of seating options and tap into WiFi at around 200Mbps.
We found the busy breakfast buffet stocked with frittata and sausages, pancakes with berries, plus an array of yoghurts, cereals and salad, alongside the usual juices, tea, barista coffee and a bar which opens from midday.
However, Virgin’s Sydney lounge could do with a makeover to bring it into line with its more contemporary Melbourne sibling (above), pleasingly revamped in 2021 with a more relaxed contemporary look, a ‘Wake Up’ barista coffee station which zips through orders thanks to an additional coffee machine, and a separate business zone.
Qantas gains an edge in the business class stakes by offering two lounges in Sydney, Melbourne and most other capital cities: mainstream Qantas Clubs and dedicated Qantas Business Lounges.
This two-pronged approach reduces crowding in the business class lounge and lets the airline roll out a more premium experience for high flyers.
The Qantas Business Lounge at Melbourne is almost a show-pony for the airline, with timber floors, cascading greenery and a rectangular bar inlaid with black marble lending the space an upmarket ambiance.
(The Qantas Business Lounges at Perth and Brisbane are similarly well appointed, leaving Sydney in obvious need of an upgrade).
Dining is a marked improvement too, although less so in Sydney: a typical breakfast spread at Melbourne’s Qantas Business Lounge pulls out the stops with scrambled eggs, bacon, porridge, bircher muesli, chia pudding, pancakes, pastries and muffins.
The Melbourne lounge is home to a Spice Bar which from noon dishes up Asian street food favourites such as wonton noodle soup or a fragrant laksa. And with WiFi at 150Mbps, the lounge easily doubles as your office before boarding the flight.
However, at odds with Virgin’s broader on-arrival lounge access rules, Qantas restricts this post-flight perk to Platinum-grade frequent flyers.
Seat
Almost all Virgin Australia routes are flown by Boeing 737s with a compact business class cabin of just eight recliners, each clad in black leather – although they’ll eventually be upgraded to the more comfortable and feature-laden business class seats of the newer Virgin 737 MAX jets.
A cream-coloured bulkhead topped by a purple perspex screen separates business class from economy, with a magnetic rope slung across the aisle to block movement between cabins shortly after takeoff.
The seat itself is perfectly comfortable for the short Sydney-Melbourne run, at 49.5cm (19.5”) width, while the 96.5cm (38”) pitch and 12.7cm (5”) recline lets travellers stretch out, but our flight notably lacks AC and USB power outlets.
The Boeing 737 is also the backbone of Qantas’ domestic routes, with an additional row of four business class seats bringing its total to 12 – and these seats are not only wider than their Virgin equivalents but have legrests and AC/USB power.
However, our review flight happens to be on an Airbus A330, which appears on several inter-capital domestic routes plus overseas flights to the likes of Seoul.
The twin-aisle A330s are fitted with 28 international-grade flatbed Business Suites in a roomy 1-2-1 layout (meaning direct aisle access for every passenger) with plenty of personal space around the seat, along with a 40cm (16”) touchscreen TV.
The A330 typically makes the Sydney-Melbourne hop once or twice per day with fares set to the same price as the 737, making the A330 definitely the one to choose if it suites your own timetable.
Although the lie-flat bed is an extravagance unlikely to see much use on this 90-minute flight, the seat in general delivers significantly greater comfort and legroom than the 737, with numerous areas to spread out and store your belongings.
Dining
On our morning departure from Sydney, the Virgin cabin crew plates up a light breakfast shortly after takeoff: we have a choice of corn fritters with goat’s cheese, tomato chutney and fresh basil, or scrambled eggs with dukkah on Turkish toast, plus a Danish on the side.
While the fritters are a little dry, it’s a well-composed dish that wouldn’t be out of place at your local corner cafe.
Our Qantas flight from Melbourne coincides with lunch: a choice of Korean-style roast beef with kimchi and soba noodles, or chicken and leek pie with sweet potato. This comes with a side of bread and a chocolate bar.
The cabin crew say our preferred meal of the Korean beef is unavailable, but manage to track one down in the A330 galley: we find it pleasingly light and fresh with lots of flavour, including a nice chilli kick.
Qantas also offers complimentary spirits on flights after 9am from a bar cart stocked with vodka, whisky and gin.
Pre-departure drinks are offered on all Virgin flights, although it’s just a toss-up between juice or sparkling water; at the time of writing Qantas has restored domestic pre-departure juice and water on longer domestic flights such as east-west. Champagne is added to the mix on international routes.
WiFi & entertainment
Virgin Australia’s inflight WiFi is free for business class passengers, Platinum frequent flyers and Beyond members; we clocked speeds around 5Mbps, and in use the connection proved rather slow. Only one device can be connected at a time.
Qantas provides free WiFi access for all passengers on its domestic 737 and A330 flights, and our flight the download rate reached 14Mbps – sufficient for streaming video if you’re so inclined.
For those who aren’t working inflight, the entertainment libraries of both Qantas and Virgin are packed with movies, TV shows, music and podcasts.
That said, Virgin’s offering is only accessible via streaming to your own device, while most Qantas’ Boeing 737 and all Airbus A330 business class seats include a personal video screen.
Price
For many travellers the decision of which airline to fly with can be largely driven by price – especially these days when budgets are constrained as other costs continue to rise, and doubly so when most factors on a 90-minute Qantas or Virgin business class trip seem roughly comparable.
At the time of writing, a one-way Virgin Australia business class fare between Sydney and Melbourne for mid-November ranges from $459 to $909, with Qantas business business class between $768 and $1,218.
That’s quite a difference, especially at the entry-level and if both airlines are flying a Boeing 737 at the time which best suits your schedule.
When a Qantas Airbus A330 is available it’s a far superior experience in every regard, but if that experience is worth a higher price is a decision best left to the individual.
ET readers: which airline is your choice for these short jaunts between Australia’s eastern capital cities, and why?
23 Oct 2014
Total posts 239
Virgin Australia - all of the above and the clincher is generally Virgin is 1/2 the price of Qantas - on price alone for the same experience it’s unbeatable.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
09 Feb 2015
Total posts 387
Surprised to hear Melbourne QF business lounge have such a comprehensive spread of food, as going through Brisbane’s QF business lounge recently offered just sausages an awful scrambled egg. Was marginally better than the Qantas Club.
It’s need major improvements for the prices QF are asking.
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
24 Jan 2018
Total posts 775
There can be no question about it, QF's Business Lounge in MEL is the benchmark for all other domestic lounges to aspire.
- Anon.
25 Oct 2017
Total posts 2
Was in their a couple of weeks ago. Food ok, coffee great, but I was a little surprised at lack of cleanliness. Sat in one of the apron facing seats and it was really filfthy with food and detritus everywhere. It clearly hadnt been cleaned for ages.
09 Nov 2011
Total posts 33
I do find this article quite weighted, (acknowledging that you highlight the differences in aircraft type and time of day.) A breakfast and a dinner flight have been compared, I find breakfast on ALL carriers to be inferior in quality to dinner. My most recent VA evening flight I had a chicken parmigiana, mash and broccolini, delicious.
And pre-departure drinks on VA are different again morning v's mid-dayísh onward.
I will point out that VA's bar in business is available on every flight, you just have to ask, as I have done before. Australian sparkling is available pre-departure at 0600 on request, (yes the odd crew member does say no, but that is because they aren't following the rules, as was pointed out to me by VA in an email response to a complaint previously.)
On my last QF flight, at 0700 I was told no sparkling wine and in flight, spirits not available, though again this could be a crew member not following the standards. Sadly this was a fun trip with friends, and multiple flight issues, (not isolated to QF I realise,) meant a less than fun day had, oh well !!!
As for the seats, you highlight that it was A330 v's B737 (old seating.) But reading overall, many don't look at the fact that many days QF doesn't op an A330 on triangle at all, it is very hit and miss. So B737 it is usually. And once the new seats at VA are in, I agree the hard product will be much of a much.
I would rather have seen a comparison of same flight time, same aircraft type.
However, i fly QF no more, (where I can use alternate,) the pricing is ridiculous as a self funded traveller.
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
11 Dec 2016
Total posts 74
How could anyone have alcohol at 6-7am?
Even the Bali jet-setters mostly wouldn't do that.
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
24 Jan 2018
Total posts 775
Alcohol at that time of the day is perfectly natural - when it's trackside during the Spring Racing Carnival and its champaign - but on a plane ?
05 Mar 2015
Total posts 422
Well as my handle here indicates I am a Qantas Platinum One member which also means I fly Qantas a lot, and OneWorld members are my first preference for international flights too, so here's my biased take!
* I fly Qantas SYD-MEL and also SYD-BNE and SYD-PER, and business class as often as I can depending on budget, but I sometimes look enviously at the lower VA fares to MEL and BNE. Look at the examples quoted in this article, lead-in SYD-MEL fares for Virgin are $459 and Qantas is $768, that's a big proportionally difference at this end of the scale.
* Qantas domestic business class meals have definitely gotten better, but I miss the little touches like pre-departure drinks.
* the A330 is definitely the way to go if there's an A330 flight which suits your own schedule, even on SYD-MEL, and it's pretty much the only way I would do SYD-PER.
* but that upgrade for the SYD business lounge can't come soon enough! It's a sorry excuse for the airline's #1 domestic lounge.
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
24 Jan 2018
Total posts 775
QFP1, can I first compliment you on your 'Full Disclosure', darn decent of you (I'm but a mere VA-P). But I can't help myself, so here goes (tongue-in-cheek):
* occasionally, VA's J-class seats on the BNE-MEL sector are $10-$20 cheaper than Eco (but suspect they do that just to taunt QF flyers);
* notice you overlooked commenting on the superior quality of VA's cabin staff service (i.e. void of 'attitude');
* having done the transcon to/from PER a few times this year, VA's J-class remains great even without lay-flat seats (although, those seats would make the red-eye flights a viable choice, which at the moment I avoid);
* it beggars belief that Captain AJ didn't at least rectify the QF Business lounge in SYD before 'fleeing abroad', but Ms Hudson will no doubt have high on her list (perhaps with some live entertainment during the first week?) and
* the J-class fare differential is worse that you envisage. Flying SYD-MEL-SYD on Wednesday, October 25th departing 0700 returning 1800, it's $998 on VA and $1,968 on QF. That's a difference of two (2) bottles of Krug Grand Cuvee (1 for each sector). Qantas needs to reduce that difference to . . . just one bottle of Krug.
QF
11 Jul 2014
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BT don't knock yourself being a VA-Platinum 😇
Remember a VA Platinum may get 800 to infinity status credits
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
24 Jan 2018
Total posts 775
🙏 Remember to check your PMs occassionally. 😁 ✈️
11 Oct 2023
Total posts 4
Perhaps a like for like would have been appropriate including REX. If you base it value for money........
1. REX
2. VIRGIN
3. QANTAS
11 Sep 2015
Total posts 228
For Sydney-Melbourne it’s much of a muchness, especially on the B737. Qantas has a slightly better seat but you’re only sitting in it for 90 minutes, well maybe two hours allowing for time from boarding to ‘deplaning’ as the Yanks say. Both airlines have free Wi-fi that’s good enough for what you want. Business class meals are also on par, sometimes one airline is better and then sometimes the other is. Both have lounges, although Qantas has the upper hand with its Business Lounges.
But I don’t reckon that’s not worth paying several hundreds of dollars extra each way, unless you are trying to earn or retain Qantas Platinum status so you can use the Business Lounges in economy. Virgin delivers the basics and ticks all the boxes but saves you a lot of money in the process so I’d say it’s better value all around.
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
24 Jan 2018
Total posts 775
. . . although Qantas has the upper hand with its Business Lounges.
To be fair to QF, that's a bit of an under-statement. But the question remains, as good as it is, does it justify the fare differential? I'd say yes (when someone else is paying the airfare), but not when it's my cost.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
05 Jan 2015
Total posts 17
$500 extra on the fare to use the QF Business Trough?
No thanks.
07 Dec 2012
Total posts 6
Being old , VA has the nod in Sydney as there are enough toilets , wheras QF business lounge is a bit short in this regard.
25 Feb 2022
Total posts 17
VA for me every time, service, staff and inflight for the price, unbeatable.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
08 Feb 2014
Total posts 15
I have found that the Virgin Lounge has much better food offerings than the Qantas Business Lounge. Virgin also looks after their loyal Platinum flyers if there is any earlier flight. Much prefer Virgin these days.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
22 Nov 2019
Total posts 88
Polarising differences, Virgin is so far ahead of Hudson Airways. Friendly bitterless staff, great no fuss meals, no greasy lucky dip meals, butter and rolls like Qantas, Virgin just have a healthy no mess meal. Business domestic lounges for both airlines always grubby. I rarely visit them as I dont like watching a bunch of suits hoover down greasy food as if its their last meal. Queue the Qantas Joyce Hudson lovejoys.
Thai Airways International - Royal Orchid Plus
15 Jan 2013
Total posts 461
It comes down to budget,who is paying and what you prefer.What we would like to know is how often does Qantas time a wide body on Sydney to Melbourne.I noticed in the years before the pandemic It was Post the Merger with Australian a mix of A300 Airbus(till those were phased out in late 1998),Boeing 767-200 and 767-300(These existed 1994 to 2014)and a mix of a330's of all kinds post 2003 to present day that determines things for a lot of us.Some of us don't care for aircraft types but it makes a difference on a lot of sectors.
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
07 Dec 2014
Total posts 170
Ultimately as intimated in the article, Qantas's on paper product (as long as comparing 737s) is slightly ahead but the Virgin overall experience is good enough especially when the fare difference is more than a couple of hundred.
In this context it's worth mentioning the main reason why rex doesnt work is their lack of flights - if I need to change to a later departure because a meeting has moved around etc, I am far more likely to have something convenient with Virgin or Qantas, even if it's a downgrade to economy.
25 Apr 2020
Total posts 5
Virgin wins on every metric in my book. OK QF better seating on the A330 but they are unicorns on domestic routes but overall VA are far out in front.
BA Gold
01 Apr 2012
Total posts 197
Interesting to read the about the 'friendlier, bitterless' cabin staff on VA versus QF.
I arrived in SIN last night on QF and a lot of the cabin crew were fairly new to the co (post COVID anyway). Of the 7 or 8 working in Business, six were ex Virgin Australia. And they seemed neither bitter, nor unfriendly :-)
08 Nov 2018
Total posts 1
The elephant in the room in all of this is the number of points you can bank and hopefully redeem at some stage. The review doesn't address this air warrier priority
31 Jan 2013
Total posts 44
So your writer just happened upon an A330 flight. Yeah, nah. Given how few of these exist and often at wired times I'm prepared to suggest it was a purposeful choice.
On a straightforward 737-800 comparison, which should also have included Rex, Rex wins in price, starting $100 less than Virgin. If the lounge adds to the equation then particularly in Sydney Virgin wins with its off street entrance.
Really Qantas comes last in all equations unless you get an A330 and even then the price difference makes that questionable.
I flew SYD-MEL-SYD this week. Down in QF A330 and back in Rex 737, both in Business. The Rex staff were friendlier but not by much. The Rex hot roast chicken, cake and pastry easily beatt the QF toasted Turkish roll, and Rex had pre-takeoff drinks. The QF lounge is hugely better, the A330 cabin also hugely better but very rare, and boarding Rex required a walk across the tarmac.
I've flown all three many times on this route. If I'm using points for an outright ticket I'll choose QF and look for an A330. If I'm buying Economy and using points to upgrade I'll choose Virgin. If I'm straight out buying the ticket I'll choose Rex. Remember that you can buy return in Business on Rex for less than one-way in Qantas. That makes the choice pretty simple unless your boss is paying and your only desire is this FF points.
28 Aug 2019
Total posts 2
The flight I took was on a 737, the Business seat was broken and the plane was old. The business class lounge (Melbourne) was dirt and tired. If you didn't want Asian food there was not much. It was very poor
09 Jun 2017
Total posts 30
Correction all. I've boarded VA838 Sydney to Melbourne and the pre departure drinks in Business class are Water and Sparkling wine! Qantas Perth to Melbourne then Melbourne to Sydney last week, no flight attendant offerings on both flights. It's been this way with Qantas for months. No service until after take-off.
Thumbs up so far for VA. Qantas service was very average, although the food has improved a tad.
18 Mar 2021
Total posts 68
One thing I find is people in business on a VA flight are more approachable and friendly compared to QF business. In QF business people seem to cocoon themselves.
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