Here’s your first look at Qantas’ all-new premium economy seat for the Boeing 787, which will begin flying in Australian skies in October 2017 before heading to Los Angeles and London – with many more Dreamliner routes to follow.
So does it live up to the promise made by Qantas CEO Alan Joyce of being a “revolutionary” seat?
At first glance, no.
It’s a well-appointed seat, to be sure. Spacious, comfortable and stylish, shaped by thoughtful design with attention to detail…
… but even if feature-for-feature it trumps the rest of the premium economy market, it still doesn’t look like a revolutionary product, a game-changer for globe-trotters on a budget.
That’s because the most innovative parts of Qantas’ new Boeing 787-9 premium economy seat won’t be obvious until you’re sitting in it and getting ready for the long flight ahead.
Then, when you’ve pressed the right buttons and fiddled around a bit, you’ll discover the deeply-reclined seat puts you into a ‘lazy Z’ position in which pretty much every part of your body is supported, right down to a long netting ‘hammock’ for your feet.
While the seat itself has been designed from the ground up for Qantas, including extensive work by Australian industrial designer David Caon, it’s based on a prototype mechanism developed by Thompson Aero Seating – the same firm behind the Boeing 787’s business class seat (below).
Now let’s delve into the must-know details for the traveller, with the help of some time spent with the seat before its public unveilling.
These photos don't represent the seat at its truest colours, which draw on a charcoal palette with some 'burnt caramel' highlights – a combination which works exceptionally well in real life.
Qantas Boeing 787 premium economy seat specs
There are 28 seats in the Qantas Dreamliner’s premium economy cabin, arranged in four rows of 2-3-2 and sandwiched between the business class and economy sections.
The seat pitch – which approximates as an indicator of legroom – is 38 inches. That’s the same as the premium economy on Qantas’ Airbus A380, as well as most other airlines – although the 41 inches of Virgin Australia’s Boeing 777-300ER fleet is a notable standout.
But a fully-reclined seat in front of you will definitely encroach upon your space, unless you've also got your seat angled back – and it'll be a squeeze to get in and out of your seat when the person in front is in ultra-relaxed mode.
Qantas claims its Boeing 787 premium economy seat width is “up to 22.8 inches”, although it’s a bit more complicated than that.
The well-padded seat cushion is 19.5 inches wide, while the armrest-to-armrest distance – the standard way in which seat widths are measured – comes in at 20.5 inches, which is one inch more than on the Qantas A380.
Allowing for the extra space between the edge of the cushion and the inner wall of the armrests brings the total of what could be called ‘hip width’ to 22.8 inches.
Need a smidge more room? The middle seat of each premium economy row (the ‘E’ seats: 20E, 21E, 22E and 23E) is actually a bit wider again, at 23.3 inches.
(The outside armrests can also drop down, providing passengers with more useable space to spread out.)
A thick luxury pillow – more like a bolster in some ways – is fitted onto the seat’s winged headrest, so the pillow won’t slide around and slip down behind your back.
To while away the hours on those long flights there’s a 13.3 inch seatback video screen…
… but if you prefer BYO inflight entertainment, there’s a narrow frame in front of the screen into which you can slide a tablet (even one as large as a 13 inch iPad Pro).
The adjacent USB port is convenient for charging your tablet – or your smartphone, especially if you tuck the phone into the covered cubbyhole just below the screen.
This is also the place to park your reading glasses or other small bits of personal kit.
There’s a second USB port in the armrest between the seats; this is a high-powered port (2A, vs 0.5A for the screen-adjacent port) with plenty of juice to fully recharge your travel tech.
However, with one AC powerpoint for each pair of seats (or two sockets for the middle set of three seats) we suggest bringing a double-adaptor so you can share the socket with your seatmate.
The meal table has enough room to plant your laptop and get into some work (or a video binge session)…
… while a large pocket on the rear of each seat is perfect for tucking away your laptop when not in use.
Qantas counts the two small recesses chiselled into the armrest on either side of the seat as ‘storage areas’, although we’d suggest they are best suited to a notepad, travel diary or maybe a small tablet in a protective case.
There’s also a soft personal LED light in the shroud of each seat...
... and a pocket for stowing water bottles.
Oh, and for those who’ve been wondering which toilets are available to premium economy travellers: they get to use the two loos at the rear of the main business class cabin, rather than having to schlep through economy.
That's good news for the premium economy brigade but not so much for business class travellers, who'll have just one lav set aside exclusively for them – that being the WC at the very front of the cabin.
From A to B in a ‘lazy Z’
So how does the Dreamliner’s premium economy seat transform into a low-cost sleeper?
Step 1: press a button and the seat tilts back into a generous 9.5 inch recline…
… and at the same time, the base of the seat angles up and forward.
Step 2: pull the lever next to the video screen...
... and a supportive calf-rest/footrest swings down and forward. This is paired with a netting cradle into which you can tuck your feet.
Unlike the Qantas A380 premium economy, there’s no legrest built into the front of the Dreamliner seat – Caon says this is because it “has a limited range of motion” and “in the end it doesn't fully support your feet.”
“We opted for a full cradling of the body from head to toe,” Caon tells Australian Business Traveller.
The re-imagined legrest works on hydraulics and can be set into a wide range of positions, typically to support your calves while your feet slide into their own hammock.
“There’s a huge range of adjustability from an ergonomics point of view” Caon says, adding that Qantas has tested the seat with passengers of just about every size.
With the headrest extended, the seat can fully cradle a traveller of around 2.1 metres from tip to toe.
However, with so many variations on how the legrest can be positioned, finding their comfort ‘sweet spot' could prove an over-complicated process for many travellers.
This is where Qantas' Boeing 787 crew is going to have to work hard on explaining the seat to passengers and helping them find the right combination of settings.
What are your thoughts on Qantas' new Boeing 787 premium economy seat?
24 Aug 2011
Total posts 1207
Unfortunately it looks like the revolution has failed. This looks OK but it is hardly revolutionary. It doesn't progress the W product past what is already offered by airlines such as SQ, doesn't have the legroom of VA and is nowhere near as innovative as what AF has put on their 789s. Overall it is a bit disappointing.
11 Dec 2015
Total posts 85
Agreed. Apart from the tricky footrest there's nothing here that wasn't on Singapore Airlines PE 2 years ago.
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
15 Aug 2012
Total posts 171
I think we all need to take a breather and wait till we try it. It was never going to be direct aisle access or flat bed technology which would cannibalise Business. The game changer will be if you can sleep comfortably, and I think this design has some interesting innovation and could be a big step up.
19 Aug 2011
Total posts 55
05 May 2016
Total posts 616
It seems to be a good step forward but not revolutionary. QANTAS set the expectations too high by calling it revolutionary.
25 Sep 2013
Total posts 1242
Correct. They seem to have forgotten it's better to underpromise and overdeliver.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
23 Feb 2017
Total posts 13
A swing and a miss.
38 inches of leg room?? Going to be difficult for those in the window seat and middle seat to get out. yuck.
Using the business toilets? Now know not to get a seat in the second business cabin!
Nice design. But not revolutionary.
Qantas
19 Apr 2012
Total posts 1429
Qf41 the current PE on the 380 shares the business lav. The difference is that on the 787 it is a bit further into the cabin. when they do the 380s with the same seat I suspect it will be in the same place as now and also share the business lav.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
23 Feb 2017
Total posts 13
Yes, but just because they do it now on the a380, doesn't mean they should design the layout in this aircraft.
Also, PE customers do not walk through the J cabin now.
NZ
13 Aug 2016
Total posts 64
38" Pitch is an joke when VA/NZ have 41-42" Pitch.
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
30 Oct 2015
Total posts 61
Still prefer the VA premium option - need those few extra inches for comfort.
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
24 Feb 2017
Total posts 2
Agreed. VA Premium was great.
09 Nov 2011
Total posts 88
Had to get that nasty burnt orange in there somewhere. Oh well they spared the armrests from it. Not exiting - It would be VA for me. Now that VA are direct LA from Melbourne soon I can avoid the very unreliable A380 with dated Business class and inconsistent cabin crew
09 Nov 2011
Total posts 88
The second Business class cabin has the toilet issue as well as 3 baby bassinet seat in close proximity. Hmmmm
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
15 Mar 2016
Total posts 167
I like the look of them in aesthetic terms. However the pitch and leg room are a bit disappointing. I'm staggered at the toilet situation as well especially on long haul! It's not a bad product and the proof is in trying it out, hard to know true comfort levels without sitting in the seat!, but it's not as amazing as expected.
31 Mar 2014
Total posts 397
After such a build up and so much hype, that looks disappointing and incredibly tight. It will be interesting to see people try and get out of hte window seat
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
20 Jan 2016
Total posts 59
Wow.. what a crashing disappointment. Talk about over promising and under delivering. At 38 inch the experience is going to feel a lot less than premium when the person in front traps you in your seat for hours on end. The extended shroud around the seat probably only serving to increase the claustrophobia when it comes back in your face. Both VA and Air NZ has markedly superior products here.
11 Nov 2013
Total posts 17
Hard to comment without actually flying in it, but agree this is certainly not revolutionary. Legroom is disappointing.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
04 Jun 2015
Total posts 70
Looks like a great seat and an improvement on what is in the market now. But by promising revolutionary i think they were going to fail with anything less that an angled or lie flat bed.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
28 Oct 2011
Total posts 467
........ and they wouldn't do that, because it would cannibalise the J market.
20 May 2014
Total posts 79
I think QF oversold this a bit, but it looks like one of those things where the proof will really be in how it feels.
A fully supported cradle-like position is the most ideal position for premium economy, in my opinion, and even AirNZ's new seats (with 42 or so inches of pitch) don't really accomplish that. It looks like these seats might, so I am cautiously optimistic.
QFF
12 Apr 2013
Total posts 1560
Nothing "revolutionary" except of big screen and yes, I rather have few inches less screen and few inches more legroom. Also they do recline back in face of rear passenger. Though "lazy Z' may be quite comfy for day flight.
Qantas
19 Apr 2012
Total posts 1429
It seems it is a compromise between the sliding shell that CX had a few years back (and I for one hated) and the full lean back into the person behind you's lap. They say the recline is 9 inches but the effecive recline for the person behind is four inches (all to do with two pivot poists and the like). As they say the proof of the pudding is in the eating so I will see next year some time or later. Might try an LA flight!!!
QFF
12 Apr 2013
Total posts 1560
Flight to LA is way too long to enjoy any PE.
10 Aug 2015
Total posts 113
I err on that the seat would need to be tried to be understood. But so far it looks like a fail, there are so many ways they could have created a "value" sleeping seat which remains distinctly inferior to business.
I am curious to know though, did they test it by having people sit in the prototype for 17 hours?
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
22 Jul 2015
Total posts 219
Much moaning on the board today. Proof of the pudding or rather the sitting in the seat. Until then its all conjecture. Being a QFF fanboy I'm looking forward to trying it.
28 Dec 2016
Total posts 74
This would be good enough for a 3 hr flight. but anything longer...
QFF
12 Apr 2013
Total posts 1560
ANY PE seats so far not "revolutionary" better than Y for flying to/from Europe and especially so overnight. I would say that they should be OK (not great, just bearable) for day flight to Asia and this is about it.
02 Dec 2015
Total posts 30
I can see the design hints from their exceptional A330 business class seat in this PE seat here but it is a shame about the leg room. I am worried about the hopping over the other passenger aspect when the seats are reclined during the middle of the night. Otherwise the product looks slick, just not revolutionary.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
23 Feb 2017
Total posts 1
Lack of decent extra space between seats is a deal breaker for me.
20 Aug 2012
Total posts 117
I still hate the thought of someone reclining into my space, that's why I love the Air NZ PE Spaceseat, well for as long as it continues ot be around anyway.
10 Jan 2017
Total posts 5
Nothing really revolutionary about this new seat at all. In fact by the figures they provide there are many other seats currently being used by other airlines with 1. more leg room 2. better recline 3. better use of a foot rest. Poor effort Qantas! The worst part is they will jack up the price and make it double the price of the original premium economy.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
23 Aug 2012
Total posts 23
At first glance this looks like it would be okay if you had the front row in PE, but looking closer at the seat map it appears there are bassinets on both outboard pairs. I don't know how they are going to manage the IFE screens, cubbyhole and footrest if this is the case. Perhaps back to in-arm screens ??
03 May 2013
Total posts 680
Come on Qantas, seriously your toilets for Business Class pax is becoming an insulting joke. Please gather your brains trust and re-visit that again. Paying Business Class passengers shouldn't have to queue behind Premium Economy pax to go to the toilet. This is especially an issue with pyjamas needing to be put on and taken off. I thought this aircraft was being configured for the ultra long hauls.....so far fail from lav perspective and Premium Economy seat pitch of 38". You got Business class and Economy seats right however, which is some saving grace.
16 Feb 2016
Total posts 1
Not as revolutionary as Qantas had originally claimed. It's probably a step up from its current design, but the seat pitch leaves much to be desired.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
10 Jan 2017
Total posts 39
Thanks QF... always behind the 8 ball! nothing revolutionary about it and having to share the Lavs with business when they only have 3 toilets - not acceptable. Looks like Virgin Australia for pacific routes and Qatar or Emirates for Atlantic routes and Singapore for Asian routes for me.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
09 Feb 2015
Total posts 388
Upgrade the A380's with new product as is likely to happen and give me the A380 over the 787 all day!! The feeling of so much more space.
28 Oct 2011
Total posts 645
Am in agreement with 'RealKid'. Slightly overhyped, (but hey, that's nothing new in the world of advertising), Of course my 'judgement' (at the moment) can only be based on pics and descriptions/info provided. So on that basis, I like the features/design/look of this seat, but as stated, 'the proof will really be how it feels'/performs. The same 'space' can be manipulated/used to achieve better efficiencies than previous 'versions' of that space. Anyway, that's my 2cents worth.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
27 Jul 2016
Total posts 56
Looks good and will be interesting to try, which I'm doing out of LA in Dec (going up in economy to compare the difference). The bottom line is it's Premium Economy not Cheap Business, and I think people get hung up expecting far too much from what essentially is just a level above cattle class. Like so many things I'd suggest people give it a go before launching into criticisms from an untried perspective. But people do like a good whinge...
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
06 Jul 2014
Total posts 22
As a self-paying Business and First Class international traveller, I can't accept the paucity of toilets for J Class on such a long haul flight. I'll be giving the 787 a miss.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
26 May 2014
Total posts 464
The concept of PE using lavs in J is fine, much more sensible than PE going to Y, BUT only if there are sufficient lavs in J. 3 lavs to 70 premium passengers ?
24 Aug 2011
Total posts 1207
THe concept would be fine if the toilets were lcoated between J and W class. In this case, the W pax have to walk through the J cabin to get to the toilets; that is not acceptable.
21 Jul 2012
Total posts 128
Finally someone has figured out that you can create extra seat width just by lowering the outer armrests! I don't know why this isn't a standard feature, especially in economy where every cm counts.
United Airlines - Mileage Plus
13 Mar 2015
Total posts 79
I think the help of inclining the backrest of the seat to certain level, then the inner seat itself recline more and elevates the position and angle your body it makes a big difference, because you don't recline the backrest too much as LH, AC or BA but the inner seat reclines more and angle to give a great Lazy Z position... I think is an improved version of AF, NH, JL has today...the reclining in those seats is not very comfortable... here it looks much better. The main issue for me is the 38" of legroom... I think should be a bit more to make it mroe comfortable for those on windows and middle seats. Not sure yet... probably will love to have a window seat but with this one probably only in the Bulkhead only for a very long flight...otherwise the aisle.
18 Oct 2015
Total posts 27
What an absolute let down, I desperately want to support Qantas but they don't make it easy...
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
04 Nov 2011
Total posts 359
Simply not enough pitch, and the lav situation is a real concern. As for the seat, well as feared it's not a revolution. However, I think It needs to be tried first before the ultimate judgement can be made. A valiant effort, however an increase of a few inches in the pitch and an extra lav (things that are pretty easy to address) would have made it a knock out. Oh and I like the tv screen!
Air New Zealand - Airpoints
08 Aug 2014
Total posts 39
Nah. Doesn't do it for me. Looks cramped and you still get assholes reclining their seat backs into your space. Will stick to Business Class. And has anyone else noticed how HARD cabin interiors are these days with all the plastic mouldings and faux-metal plastic trims and whatnot and office-like decor? Call me old-fashioned but I yearn for the good old days of big fat squashy seats that were like a little island you sank into. That's flying luxury to me.
25 Sep 2013
Total posts 1242
"Will stick to Business Class."
17 Feb 2016
Total posts 21
It looks fine, and having a foot rest is excellent. I'm a biggish size person, however, and older, and having the ability to extend my legs fully means I will always fly business or first on flights greater than 7-8 hours.
03 May 2013
Total posts 680
Wonder if this W seat will become the "revolutionary" new QF Domestic J Class seat in time?
05 May 2016
Total posts 9
Disappointing.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
21 Jul 2014
Total posts 28
I like the lazy Z concept, sitting in one in a backyard recently made me a convert. So that's clever, but if you are going to have a reclining seat in front of you then surely more legroom is needed. Couldn't the lazy Z concept have worked with the seat sliding down within a shell?
20 May 2015
Total posts 579
The only real problem I see is the layout of the toilets but other than that it looks like a good Premium Economy product. Standard legroom, above-standard width, cradle recline and generous seat amenity. Not revolutionary but certainly an upgrade over the current product..
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
04 Jan 2015
Total posts 1
This looks quite similar to CX's 'regional business class' - which is average...!
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
23 Oct 2013
Total posts 699
Someone might be able to answer this but with the space reserved for premium economy would they have been able to fit an angled flat bed like EK 777's or even the old VA A330's/current FJ A330's?
24 Aug 2011
Total posts 1207
Airlines would be loathe to go down this route as it would cannibalise Business Class, just as the upgrading of Business Class has effectively destroyed First Class. It is important to keep a gap between the products.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
23 Feb 2017
Total posts 9
Joyce has been listening too much to his marketing guys. Certainly not "revolutionary" Biggest fault is that the seat reclines. Unlike JAL whose PE seat reclines within its own space, therefore not intruding on the passenger behind. Back to the drawing boards.
24 Aug 2011
Total posts 1207
You are correct. It is good to increase the angle of recline but only if you increase pitch. QF has increased recline whilst leaving pitch unchanged and this will be a problem that can only be solved by either reducing the recline angle or creeping out pitch by 2 or 3".
16 Feb 2016
Total posts 30
I quite like these seats. Maintains differentiation between classes and focuses on width and ergonomics. Considering they gave an extra in of pitch for Y I would of thought having this cabin at 40in would have been better as it sounds much better and takes into account the seat recline. I wonder if it was kept at 38 because any more would not allow the best use of the legrest. An extra 8 inches surely would be easy to facilitate.
05 Oct 2016
Total posts 5
Premium economy needs an upgrade or price decrease as the current offering on most airlines isn't worth the large price jump from an exit row economy seat & gets too close to business.
12 Apr 2011
Total posts 71
So the footrest is "latched" onto the seat in front. I wonder how "strong" the latch is because if you need to forcefully push the footrest to store it, it's going to annoying for the person in front as the seat shakes while you move the footrest around.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
08 Sep 2012
Total posts 236
Not sure if this has already been suggested, but perhaps the reason the seat isn't too revolutionary is that QF don't want to canibalise their Business Class demand. This PE product is good but it won't make many people want to trade down from Business especially now that Business offers direct aisle access for everyone.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
18 Dec 2016
Total posts 30
I like where they were going, but they ultimately screwed it up with the legroom, and foot rest.
10 Feb 2012
Total posts 10
Sorry but the original PE product is a much better design (I'll miss it), especially when it comes to shoulder width. Those side wings on the new PE don't allow your shoulders and chest/arms to spread out, especially if your tall. In regards to recline? I'm stunned they didn't copy the Japan Airlines/Air France type of PE, whereby, the seat retracts down and not back. So not that revolutionary.
12 Feb 2014
Total posts 228
The more I look at it, the better I like it. Qantas have come up with the goods on the Business Suite so I'm prepared to extend the same confidence to this new product. Hard, though, to make a judgement call on something that really needs to be experienced. I like the drop down armrests. I'm guessing this makes it easy to swing legs into the aisle to allow someone to exit next to you.
VA Platinum
26 Mar 2014
Total posts 116
Agree with all the comments above regarding aesthetics, over promising under delivering and can't judge it properly until fluing in it etc etc.
28 Nov 2012
Total posts 93
The lazy Z compared to the market it is some what revolutionary. I think it is great. PE is designed more for passengers going up from economy rather than down from Business. A fixed shell would have been better at that pitch though. Looking forward to trying it out
13 Feb 2017
Total posts 21
I can't believe that they have repeated the same mistake that Air NZ initially made with their genuinely revolutionary SpaceSeat. Too little pitch between rows destroying a promising design.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
01 Apr 2011
Total posts 43
Complete and utter waste of time and energy. Why do they even bother. They just don't get the message - LEGROOM, LEGROOM, LEGROOM. This is basically no better than what cattle class used to be just a few years ago. On a long flight you need to be able to get out of your seat, to go to the bathroom, to stretch your legs etc. Well nigh impossible with this stupid seat. Granted it will be marginally more comfortable that Cattle, but at the price, it is not worth it. I am bitterly disappointed. Been saving my QFF points for a trip to London for my partner and I. Can only manage enough for 2 PE seats - provided they don't "improve" the QFF scheme before then. That dream has gone up in smoke, unless the A380 is better. I won't ever being doing the 18 hour flight from Perth, but I would still struggle with the 13½ hours to Dubai etc. One can only hope we get some new enlightened management at Qantas soon.
15 Jan 2013
Total posts 36
Nice but not a revolutionary product - an totally agree that 38 inch pitch just doesn't cut it on ultra long haul flights. For the sake of an extra two inches they've disappointed many rather than wowing them. :-(
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
26 May 2014
Total posts 464
I guess the negativity of a lot of comments confirms it was oversold. There is definitely some worthy innovation there with the Z seat concept, which seems to be overlooked because it doesn't measure up to expectations set by the "revolutionary" claim. Being a taller person, I often find that features such as foot rests do not provide any comfort gain. If the footrest on this seat has some element of adjustment, maybe it will work for the longer legs. I have reservations about knee clearance as the seat base pitches up and the seat in front reclines back. It would be informative to see a 2.1m (or even 2m) person in there with all the seats reclined. Happy to volunteer!
29 Oct 2016
Total posts 35
Business has lost amenity with this configuration. PE will be difficult for people squished behind fully reclined seats especially those not on an aisle and Economy has been fitted with the extra narrow 3-3-3 configuration. What a sad undermining of what might have been.
The 2 class JAL configuration would be much better: Business with its own lavatories, no PE and decent Economy with 2-4-2 perhaps at a slightly higher price but people who see advantage in non-stop ultra long distance flights would pay for that convenience.
As it is with PE on board Qantas have had to create a reason for the PE price point by making Economy uncomfortable and a reason for the Business price point by making PE unattractive, but still make Business share its lavatories. All for just three rows of PE.
Looks like the Qantas 787 will be an aircraft to avoid for all three classes.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
06 Jul 2014
Total posts 22
An excellent summary J-sh of all the issues raised. Overall, I think Qantas' interior designers lost sight of the fact these aircraft will be doing extra-long hauls of a continuous 17 hours or so and have sacrificed comfort and pleasure for all classes just to cram in a few more seats. Perhaps AJ and his senior design team members would like to travel in PE on the inaugural flight!
11 Dec 2016
Total posts 42
As someone who pays for his own flights and loves Qantas, this looks great, and I do like the "Z" seating as well as the foot rest. However, the price gap between PE and Economy is too large to justify the personal expenditure - PE is about $4000 when Economy is around $1400. At this point, as much as I despise United, I'd purchase Economy on their 787 then pay $200 to upgrade to Economy Plus and enjoy the extra leg room and Wi-Fi (which is quite good).
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
10 Apr 2013
Total posts 387
QF needs to add 1 more toilet for business class and add an extra 3 inches for pitch to 41.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
10 Apr 2013
Total posts 387
QF/AJ if you are reading this please make these 2 changes!
12 Jan 2016
Total posts 13
Glad to see a reasonable foot rest, which is sorely missing in the current PE. Ergonomics and support will tell the tale, and that will require an actual test-run before judgement.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
23 Mar 2012
Total posts 211
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
23 Mar 2012
Total posts 211
maybe adding some decent seat pitch and not reclining into the lap of the person behind along with the features might have made it a 'revolutionary' product.
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